Is Tim Duncan the only top 10 player of all time that...

[Marlo_Stanfield]

06, 07, and 08 for sure.

[T_L_P]

I love Duncan, but you guys need to stop overrating him.

Care to name me five better, when context is applied?

[annbafan]

Can't think of one season where Kobe was the best player in the league

it's easier to name the seasons when he wasn't the best player than the ones when he was.

[mehyaM24]

1998-shaq
1999-shaq
2000-shaq
2001-shaq
2002-shaq
2003-shaq
2004-shaq
2005-shaq/lebron
2006-lebron
2007-lebron
2008-lebron
2009-lebron
2010-lebron
2011-lebron
2012-lebron
2013-lebron

yes, he and kobe are the only "top 10" players to never be the best in any of the years they played.

[T_L_P]

1998-shaq
1999-shaq
2000-shaq
2001-shaq
2002-shaq
2003-shaq
2004-shaq
2005-shaq/lebron
2006-lebron
2007-lebron
2008-lebron
2009-lebron
2010-lebron
2011-lebron
2012-lebron
2013-lebron

yes, he and kobe are the only "top 10" players to never be the best in any of the years they played.

Yeah, Shaq was really the best player in '99 when Duncan swept his ass. And again in '03 when he got torched by a single star team.

How was Shaq the best player in the world in '03, when he was only marginally better than Bryant himself, and they couldn't even make it out of the second round?

And LeBron in '05? He didn't make the ****ing Playoffs.

[mehyaM24]

Yeah, Shaq was really the best player in '99 when Duncan swept his ass. And again in '03 when he got torched by a single star team.

team sport

shaq played with scrubs. once he actually got help (the very next year), LA was a dynasty.

How was Shaq the best player in the world in '03, when he was only marginally better than Bryant himself, and they couldn't even make it out of the second round?

injuries (played with turf toe)... when healthy, shaq was still by FAR the best player in the game. the only time san antonio was able to beat the lakers is when kobe either shotjacked or shaq didnt have enough help.

look at shaq and kobe's playoff scoring....
2000 championship year:
shaq- 30.7 ppg
kobe 21.1 ppg

2001 championship year:
shaq- 30 .4 ppg
kobe 29.4 ppg

2002 championship year:
shaq- 28.5 ppg
kobe 26.6 ppg

with that ball going thru shaq they were unbeatable....what happened in 2003? shaq 27.0 ppg, kobe 32.1 ppg.....kobe took 159 fgas to shaqs 102 fgas in the 2003 spurs series

kobe simply shotjacked them out of that series

And LeBron in '05? He didn't make the ****ing Playoffs.

AGAIN....TEAM SPORT

lebron was already the best all-around player in 2005. fact

[T_L_P]

team sport

shaq played with scrubs. once he actually got help (the very next year), LA was a dynasty.



injuries (played with turf toe)... when healthy, shaq was still by FAR the best player in the game. the only time san antonio was able to beat the lakers is when kobe either shotjacked or shaq didnt have enough help.

look at shaq and kobe's playoff scoring....
2000 championship year:
shaq- 30.7 ppg
kobe 21.1 ppg

2001 championship year:
shaq- 30 .4 ppg
kobe 29.4 ppg

2002 championship year:
shaq- 28.5 ppg
kobe 26.6 ppg

with that ball going thru shaq they were unbeatable....what happened in 2003? shaq 27.0 ppg, kobe 32.1 ppg.....kobe took 159 fgas to shaqs 102 fgas in the 2003 spurs series

kobe simply shotjacked them out of that series



AGAIN....TEAM SPORT

lebron was already the best all-around player in 2005. fact

Stop with this when healthy bullshit. When Tim was healthy in '06 he was averaging 32 PPG on 56% shooting in a 7 game Playoff series. Was he the best player in '06?

There's no way Shaq was the best player in '03. He missed twenty regular season games, and then he was taken down by Duncan in the Playoffs. If he couldn't stay healthy that was mainly due to his laziness. He shouldn't get a pass for that.

Shaq was easily the best player from 00-02 (though Duncan outperformed Shaq in the '02 Playoffs, he just didn't have the team -- which is what you spewed about '99). But in '03 it was Duncan's time. Even Rick Fox called him the best player in the world. So did Bill Walton, Jason Kidd, most media outlets.

[aj1987]

Care to name me five better, when context is applied?

Jordan, Shaq, and Hakeem take the top 5. Timmy's run is probably the 7th greatest, IMO.

Heck, as much as I hate on Wilt, he had one of the GOAT playoff runs in '67. 22/29/9? Those are freaking 2k'ish numbers.

[T_L_P]

Jordan, Shaq, and Hakeem take the top 5. Timmy's run is probably the 7th greatest, IMO.

Heck, as much as I hate on Wilt, he had one of the GOAT playoff runs in '67. 22/29/9? Those are freaking 2k'ish numbers.

Shaq in 2000 is about the same. But 2001 and 2002, when he was playing with the second or third best player in the league? Like I said, apply context. Doing it without another star is almost impossible. Shaq had an ultra-star for his next two runs.

Jordan's first run, Hakeem's 94 run, and Shaq 00 run are the only ones that deserve to be put ahead, and even then I'm taking Tim's 03 run over Shaq's. I think ESPN ranked Duncan's second, in fact.

[lilgodfather1]

Kobe Bryant is the answer to this question. Well maybe for obe season. Kobe just had tough luck. He came into the league and Shaq and Duncan were priming all over the place, and then the King was Kinging when they declined.

Know the difference between a King and a Pawn.

[r15mohd]

Duncan's 03 Playoff run is one of the five greatest ever. Of course he was.

Shaq missed like twenty regular season games so by default Duncan was better. But in the Playoffs Duncan completely kills him. He went on Shaq's court and finished him with a 37/16 game.

this...TD was definitely the best that year, 2004 was a descent year for him too. Nash did emerge tho

[gts]

I Can't stop thinking of Kobe, it's like he's become part of me

fixed

[DMAVS41]

Stop with this when healthy bullshit. When Tim was healthy in '06 he was averaging 32 PPG on 56% shooting in a 7 game Playoff series. Was he the best player in '06?

There's no way Shaq was the best player in '03. He missed twenty regular season games, and then he was taken down by Duncan in the Playoffs. If he couldn't stay healthy that was mainly due to his laziness. He shouldn't get a pass for that.

Shaq was easily the best player from 00-02 (though Duncan outperformed Shaq in the '02 Playoffs, he just didn't have the team -- which is what you spewed about '99). But in '03 it was Duncan's time. Even Rick Fox called him the best player in the world. So did Bill Walton, Jason Kidd, most media outlets.

He and Wade would be my picks...

[Kiddlovesnets]

He was the best from 03-07, or maybe 05-07 if you believe Shaq was still in his prime till 2004.

[gts]

I love Duncan, but you guys need to stop overrating him.

Although he does overrate Duncan in most aspects Duncan's 2003 playoff run was incredible..

that being said when there's a debate whether he was the best player for even one year and it comes down to a playoff run it shows how overrated he is by some