tim duncan has been a role player on offense for the last 7 years

[fpliii]

Ya role players who win role player rings can rank up over other role players. But a legendary player already top 10 isnt getting much prestige. Not nearly enough to 1 up anybody left in his path.

And being good defensively as a center when there arent any centers leading teams to titles offensively for him to matchup with. It makes things a big simpler

I'd say tony parker is by far the most important guy on the spurs. Then manu is arguably 2nd.

The spurs are not a 3 headed monster like they once were. Its a full team rotation and this team winning it all would be like the pistons in 2004.

Eh, I think Timmy is still the most important but I can see where you're coming from. Manu and Parker wet the bed last Finals, and if one of them shows up, they probably win. So in that regard they're important.

Frankly though I don't think this Spurs team will win it all this year, but I guess they could. Blake Griffin looks like he's taken his game to another level, so the Clippers could figure into the mix.

[ShackEelOKneel]

Frankly though I don't think this Spurs team will win it all this year, but I guess they could. DeAndre Jordan looks like he's taken his game to another level, so the Clippers could figure into the mix.

Fixed.

[davehos]

Fixed.

Seconded.

I hear Kia is casting for a new commercial.

[Carbine]

Kareem wasn't even the second best player for his 5th ring. He was a role player his 6th title. All that will be remembered is winning.

[Warfan]

As long as you only count Kobe with 4 rings...then I think everyone would be cool with it.

Because current Duncan is a better player than 00 Kobe overall...and no way could the Spurs win a title with Duncan playing like Kobe did in the 00 finals.

So do you admit Kobe should only be credited with 4 titles and that 00 means nothing?

You sure about that?

[DMAVS41]

You sure about that?

Yea...Duncan is under-rated here. He's till playing great defense and knows how to win.

The experience factor puts him over the top. 00 Kobe was a year away from putting it all together.

And regardless of that...the point is that there is no ****ing way Duncan can play like Kobe did in the 00 finals and still win. And if he did and they won...then you have to give Duncan just as much credit as people do 00 Kobe.

And I find it funny...I don't see many people list Kobe as a player with 4 rings. So obviously playing like complete shit in the finals and winning still is a good thing.

So I see no reason why it would be different for Duncan...whether it was last year or this year.

[Kblaze8855]

He scored exactly the same per minutes last year as in 2003. And actually got more rebounds. I suppose he was a role player who played 40 minutes then?

He wasnt shooting any more for the time he was on the floor. He just played more minutes.

That the difference between elite and a role player?

He was all nba first team at 37. What he does will still count towards his final standing. He isnt Mitch Richmond on the Lakers. Hes closer to Drexler on the Rockets, Shaq on the Heat, or Moses Malone on the Bullets or Hawks the last few years.

Shaq put up like 18/9 winning his last ring...but he gets credit for 4. Similar deal.

Duncan is getting credit for anything he wins.

People credit Willis Reed for a ring he won as an 11ppg shadow who had a few good games at the right time.

Still said that Reed won 2 rings.

[tragicbronson]

Ever since 2008 (since tony parkers finals run ) tim duncan has been a 15-17ppg role player.. on offense hes resembled the output of maybe a 1998 6th man kobe bryant


If kobe was on a stacked team averaging 15 points with 2 other guys running the offense 90% of the time. I wouldnt put much weight into his ring if he were to win one

People need to stop talking about duncans legacy. Its already set in stone. There isnt anything he can do to climb any higher.


Top 6.7.8 at best.. top 7.8.9 at worst.. around kobe and shaq. All ranked differently by those who love or hate someone more than someone else

He could retire tomorrow and this team would still be amazing. If they win it this year and he retired. I doubt it would be hard to find another top 40 player in the nba to step in for them

[Black Mamba's B]

Good post op.
Duncan is a legend and still plays at a high level but its not like he's carrying his team. Parker has arguably been the best player on the team for at least the last three years

[CavaliersFTW]

He was a top 10 player last season and would have been the Finals MVP had the Spurs not choked.

You mean had it not been for Ray Allen?

[kennethgriffin]

some dude in this thread said 39 year old tim duncan is better than this guy



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J90qsQo5dg4 ( playoff game winner )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNN920v6ss ( saves game 7 wcf )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFHqwat3Wm8 ( coming off injury )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzmRk15I7g4 ( saves shaq again )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gbinYzvNbQ ( 40 point near TD )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yftIjaZumaU ( some highlights )


1st team all defense, 2nd team all nba ( behind only 2 hall of fame legends )

23ppg ( his lowest output season for a title equaling duncans highest )










i dont even care to look at his name anymore. forget the quote. no need to give whoever that was anymore attention

[5 rings fan]

According to Deuce Bigalow, even Wilt is better than Tim Duncan...

[Artillery]

As long as you only count Kobe with 4 rings...then I think everyone would be cool with it.

Because current Duncan is a better player than 00 Kobe overall...and no way could the Spurs win a title with Duncan playing like Kobe did in the 00 finals.

So do you admit Kobe should only be credited with 4 titles and that 00 means nothing?

Oh...and just for fun;

13 Duncan in finals - 19/12/1 55% TS 112 ortg 104 drtg

00 Kobe in finals - 16/5/4 41% TS 96 ortg 116 drtg

Kobe wins and Duncan loses....ROFL

at those horrible numbers. amazing what playing next to prime Shaq can do for your legacy

[Paul George 24]

some dude in this thread said 39 year old tim duncan is better than this guy



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J90qsQo5dg4 ( playoff game winner )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNN920v6ss ( saves game 7 wcf )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFHqwat3Wm8 ( coming off injury )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzmRk15I7g4 ( saves shaq again )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gbinYzvNbQ ( 40 point near TD )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yftIjaZumaU ( some highlights )


1st team all defense, 2nd team all nba ( behind only 2 hall of fame legends )

23ppg ( his lowest output season for a title equaling duncans highest )










i dont even care to look at his name anymore. forget the quote. no need to give whoever that was anymore attention

duncan is not a ball hog like ko"me"be

[rmt]

Ever since 2008 (since tony parkers finals run ) tim duncan has been a 15-17ppg role player.. on offense hes resembled the output of maybe a 1998 6th man kobe bryant


If kobe was on a stacked team averaging 15 points with 2 other guys running the offense 90% of the time. I wouldnt put much weight into his ring if he were to win one

People need to stop talking about duncans legacy. Its already set in stone. There isnt anything he can do to climb any higher.


Top 6.7.8 at best.. top 7.8.9 at worst.. around kobe and shaq. All ranked differently by those who love or hate someone more than someone else

He could retire tomorrow and this team would still be amazing. If they win it this year and he retired. I doubt it would be hard to find another top 40 player in the nba to step in for them

Well, seeing as Parker averaged only 16.7 points this whole year, I guess Parker is a role player too. In case you haven't noticed, Parker runs almost all his pick and rolls with Duncan, and Duncan is still the backbone of the Spurs' defense.