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05-09-2014, 03:04 AM
#106
Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?
Originally Posted by mehyaM24
agenda exposed lol
2012 celtics as LeBron faced them were missing their best wing defender Avery Bradley and were playing a severely hobbled Pierce and Ray who both sucked dick throughout the playoffs. They relied entirely on Rondo's dominance and KG turning back the clock to 2008. They were also so worried about bran that they let him play 1v1 almost the entire series up until Game 7, whilst double teaming Wade on nearly every play (because he had historically shred the Celtics D in Postseasons prior)
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05-09-2014, 03:32 AM
#107
Local High School Star
Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?
east always been weak anyways. mehyaM24 speaks the truth.
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05-09-2014, 12:39 PM
#108
Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?
Originally Posted by JT123
LOL at people saying the late 90's Heat were a great team. That team was like today's Chicago Bulls, great defensive team, but not enough offensive weapons to ever be considered a legitimate contender. I mean their best player was a 6'1 Tim Hardaway for crying out loud. I have yet to see anyone make a solid argument for the East being better back then. Every argument is based on nothing more than nostalgia. Saying the 98 Nets were better than the 2012 Celtics? Tells me all I need to know about a person's intelligence level.
seriously.
mourning was a great defensive player, but even ewing was miles better offensively(not saying much when ny themselves were challenged on that end). and tim hardaway post acl surgery? guy was a sub~ 40 shooter with an average volume of shot attempts
when you break down most of those teams in the 90s eastern conference,they had MAJOR flaws,mostof them being on the offensive side of the ball.
do people legit think that gimmicky style ny ran would work today? they'd barely make the playoffs in the west.
Last edited by mehyaM24; 05-09-2014 at 12:41 PM.
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05-09-2014, 12:40 PM
#109
Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?
Originally Posted by houston
east always been weak anyways. mehyaM24 speaks the truth.
nostalgia runs deep my friend....
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05-09-2014, 12:51 PM
#110
NBA All-star
Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
Eastern Conference Winning % (Bulls Championship Years)
1990-1991: 48.9%
1991-1992: 49.9%
1992-1993: 50.8%
1995-1996: 50.3%
1996-1997: 52.6%
1997-1998: 52.7%
Eastern Conference Winning % (Post Decision)
2010-2011: 47.1%
2011-2012: 47.9%
2012-2013: 47%
2013-2014: [COLOR="Red"]43.2%[/COLOR]
Red= 2nd Lowest Eastern conference % ever.
The East this year also posted the lowest ever H2H winning percentage (37%) against the West.
Come On Son
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...t-version-ever
http://nba.si.com/2013/12/05/histori...stern-western/
^If that's an indication of 'Jordan mythology' then Bron Bron's on some Paul Bunyan, Wilt Chamberlain type shit.
The interesting thing is that if the East had a winning percentage of 49.5 each of those Bulls seasons, they would say that it was proof that the East was weak as ****. Instead the East was over 50% for 4 out of those 6 seasons. It's all about a weird obsession that the OP and his alt account have.
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05-09-2014, 01:02 PM
#111
Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?
Originally Posted by jstern
The interesting thing is that if the East had a winning percentage of 49.5 each of those Bulls seasons, they would say that it was proof that the East was weak as ****. Instead the East was over 50% for 4 out of those 6 seasons. It's all about a weird obsession that the OP and his alt account have.
i've asked that poster to use win percentages with playoff teams but he's ignored my post(its somewhere in the low 40% for the east), which just further proves my point.
great basketball is all about competition. if pointing out that reality hurts you, i dont know what to say.
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05-09-2014, 01:06 PM
#112
jordan > leflop james
Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?
Originally Posted by NumberSix
Two words.....
Jordan mythology
stay mad
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05-09-2014, 01:35 PM
#113
Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?
Originally Posted by aboss4real24
[COLOR="Magenta"]
the Pistons and Celtics dynasties were over when the Bulls started to hit their prime. the bulls only "competition" were the Knicks, who were short on talent and had to resort to physical goonery and intimidation. in fact the 1 full season Jordan sat out due to killing his pops...err, playing baseball, the Knicks still struggled to beat the Bulls in 7 games> How come no one ever discredits Michael Jordan's rings when he played in the East his whole career?
meanwhile out West you had:
-the Malone and Stockton led Jazz who were annual championship contenders
-the Spurs teams with prime David Robinson, Avery Johnson, Sean Elliott, etc
-Hakeem's Rockets
-Payton and Kemp's Sonics
-prime Barkley's Suns
-always competitive Lakers, even though they were going through a new influx of players
-always competitive Trail Blazers
But err1 wanna automatically put a * on any1 (mainly LB) Who comes out the east?[/COLOR]
None of those Western Conference teams were all competitive at the same time. And the Bulls always had rivals in the East better then almost any Eastern Conference team in the 00s-10s. The 91 Celtics, 91 Pistons, 92 Knicks, 92 Cavs, 93 Knicks, 94 Knicks, 94 Pacers, 95 Knicks, 95 Magic, 95 Pacers, 96 Knicks, 96 Magic, 97 Knicks, 97 Heat, 98 Heat, and 98 Pacers were better then any team from the East in the 00s-10s except for some of the championship and finals teams. Its not even close. And there wasn't really any noticeable disparity between the Eastern and Western Conferences like there is now.
By the way, its hilarious when people say the 91 Pistons or 91 Lakers were "out of their prime" but then pump up how the Heat beat the 2012 Celtics and 2013 Spurs
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05-09-2014, 01:51 PM
#114
You are amazing
Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?
Zo Heat, Magic with shaq/penny, knicks with ewing starks
pistons with isiah and other all-stars, C's were good for a few years, pacers came in later on. There were a lot of good teams
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05-09-2014, 02:29 PM
#115
It is what it is
Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?
Originally Posted by SexSymbol
Zo Heat, Magic with shaq/penny, knicks with ewing starks
pistons with isiah and other all-stars, C's were good for a few years, pacers came in later on. There were a lot of good teams
The 98 Pacers alone were better than any team Miami has faced these last 3 years in the EC. That team had a very good PG in Mark Jackson, good outside shooters in Reggie Miller and Chris Mullin and their FC is easily better than what Miami has faced so far in Dale Davis, Antonio Davis and Ric Smits. Dat FC would crush the Heat, no joke...
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