So who wins DPOY?

[russwest0]

serge ibaka

[Artillery]

Noah is the best center in the league at stepping out on perimeter players for starters. Noah and Gibsons abilities to switch on picks is massive to the Bulls defense.

Noah boards, blocks, and steals with the best in the league regardless of position. And he is the defensive court general for the Bulls.

You're a little bitch because you can't give him any credit so clearly there is some agenda in your pea sized brain.

Who you got for DPOY?

Why are Bulls fans so quick to overrate anybody that's half-decent on their team?

Rose winning MVP was a joke. That's like giving an MVP to Tony Parker(similar players as far as impact goes).

Noah's a good center but the narrative from Bulls fans is that he's the best big in the NBA which is a bit comical. Hell, he's not even the best defensive big on his own team.

As for DPOY, it's a weak year. Not sure who gets it.

[sportjames23]

Why are Bulls fans so quick to overrate anybody that's half-decent on their team?

Rose winning MVP was a joke. That's like giving an MVP to Tony Parker(similar players as far as impact goes).

Noah's a good center but the narrative from Bulls fans is that he's the best big in the NBA which is a bit comical. Hell, he's not even the best defensive big on his own team.

As for DPOY, it's a weak year. Not sure who gets it.

So mad this nikka is.

[Artillery]

So mad this nikka is.

Huh? Nobody's mad - just an observation.

Truth is Bulls have been so shitty since the GOAT retired that the fanbase has forgotten how to properly rate players. That's why you have Parker-level stars like Rose getting MVP hype or Noah being talked up as some kind of defensive beast when the impact stats say otherwise.

[pauk]

No hate but I honestly don't get the whole lebron for DPOY hype.

There is no such hype, never was.... thats the thing... it should have been last year...

Would anyone actually consider Bron a better defender than Jimmy Butler or kawhi leonard?

Yes, because he does much more defensively than strictly playing man-to-man on SF's.... Lebron is the most versatile defender in the league hence the best ALLROUND defender in the league.... he is not the best interior defender (Howard? Ibaka? Deandre? Hibbert?) and he doesnt stay infront of guards better than Tony Allen or Bradley, but he does it all very effectively especially when motivated and he is in that sence the best help defender in the league..... just like Pippen was in the 90s for those exact same reasons....

....and Pippen never won DPOY either.... he at least got outbeat for that by the likes of Hakeem, Mutombo etc..... but Lebron? Marc Gasol......

[East_Stone_Ya]

Ibaka deserves it the most

[sportjames23]

Huh? Nobody's mad - just an observation.

Truth is Bulls have been so shitty since the GOAT retired that the fanbase has forgotten how to properly rate players. That's why you have Parker-level stars like Rose getting MVP hype or Noah being talked up as some kind of defensive beast when the impact stats say otherwise.

Just fvckin witcha, bruh.

[Artillery]

Picking Ibaka would be worse than picking Noah. People have to stop looking at box score stats when guaging defense. It's because of this kind of crap that we get players like Marcus Camby winning DPOY.

[jzek]

LeBron

[bingoa]

Picking Ibaka would be worse than picking Noah. People have to stop looking at box score stats when guaging defense. It's because of this kind of crap that we get players like Marcus Camby winning DPOY.

you also have to look at defensive impact, every spurs player shat themselves and bricked layup after layup whenever Ibaka was around the paint in their recent meeting, that happens ever game.

watch some thunder games and Ibaka closely,dude's a great defender.

[INDI]

There is no such hype, never was.... thats the thing... it should have been last year...



Yes, because he does much more defensively than strictly playing man-to-man on SF's.... Lebron is the most versatile defender in the league hence the best ALLROUND defender in the league.... he is not the best interior defender (Howard? Ibaka? Deandre? Hibbert?) and he doesnt stay infront of guards better than Tony Allen or Bradley, but he does it all very effectively especially when motivated and he is in that sence the best help defender in the league..... just like Pippen was in the 90s for those exact same reasons....

....and Pippen never won DPOY either.... he at least got outbeat for that by the likes of Hakeem, Mutombo etc..... but Lebron? Marc Gasol......

Good points and I can agree with his versatility but I dont think he has a game changing versatility that would have coaches strategizing on how to overcome it.

Imo last years dpoy should have went to ibaka. Prior to this year he was the best defender in the NBA but got overshadowed by his own teammates and bigger names

[INDI]

you also have to look at defensive impact, every spurs player shat themselves and bricked layup after layup whenever Ibaka was around the paint in their recent meeting, that happens ever game.

watch some thunder games and Ibaka closely,dude's a great defender.

This!!! More than his stats, ibaka changes the way teams attack. That alone makes him worthy of the award.

Before the nets moved to brooklyn (my burrough). I was primarily a lakers fan. I literally hated the guy only because how much he made them change their game plan. I would feel relieved everytime he went to the bench.

[pegasus]

Definitely Noah. Ibaka is a terrible 1-on-1 defender. Improved a bit this season but still terrible if you are gonna talk about DPOY.

And Lebron...?