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03-30-2014, 01:37 PM
#151
#HEATNATION
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
Whoah! Pretty much this
(Ugh, forgot to log out)
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03-30-2014, 01:47 PM
#152
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Originally Posted by livinglegend
Human defense mechanism.
After reading the post for the first time, your brain couldnt accept the truth, so it dropped its IQ. When you read it the 2nd time, your brain couldnt understand the post anymore thus, it wouldnt have to fight the harsh truth.
BTW, your IQ was already low, now.............
damn!
Dropped even more, bro. Keep going. I'm finna stoop to your level soon nuff. Shit.
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03-30-2014, 01:51 PM
#153
NBA lottery pick
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Originally Posted by Fudge
Dropped even more, bro. Keep going. I'm finna stoop to your level soon nuff. Shit.
that weak, you lost, i won the trolling round.
next.
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03-30-2014, 01:52 PM
#154
... on a leash
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Originally Posted by Fudge
Dropped even more, bro. Keep going. I'm finna stoop to your level soon nuff. Shit.
lmfaoo! I missed that avy haha
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03-30-2014, 01:53 PM
#155
Kobe Apostle
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
Lebron and Wilt running 1-2...
And if there were a general draft in the NBA in the last five seasons, Lebron would have been taken #1 in every season.
Same with Chamberlain in EVERY season of the 60's.
These "chokers" who put up massive post-seasons.
Wilt has the highest choking rating of alltime. You think that's some kind of coincidence?
Let me boil it down:
Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings
Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3
Karl Malone: 8 + (25.0-24.7) + (25.0-19.6) + (10.1-10.7) + (10.1-9.6) + (3.6-3.2) + (3.6-3.3) + (51.6-46.3) + (51.6-46.0) + (74.2-73.6) + (74.2-67.6) - 0 = 32.4
David Robinson: 6 + (21.1-18.1) + (21.1-13.5) + (10.6-10.6) + (10.6-9.4) + (2.5-2.3) + (2.5-1.5) + (51.8-47.9) + (51.8-49.5) + (73.6-70.8) + (73.6-69.2) - 2 = 30.4
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03-30-2014, 01:54 PM
#156
NBA lottery pick
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Wilt has the highest choking rating of alltime. You think that's some kind of coincidence?
Let me boil it down:
Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings
Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3
Karl Malone: 8 + (25.0-24.7) + (25.0-19.6) + (10.1-10.7) + (10.1-9.6) + (3.6-3.2) + (3.6-3.3) + (51.6-46.3) + (51.6-46.0) + (74.2-73.6) + (74.2-67.6) - 0 = 32.4
David Robinson: 6 + (21.1-18.1) + (21.1-13.5) + (10.6-10.6) + (10.6-9.4) + (2.5-2.3) + (2.5-1.5) + (51.8-47.9) + (51.8-49.5) + (73.6-70.8) + (73.6-69.2) - 2 = 30.4
Russell has the lowest!
Another argument for him being the GOAT!
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03-30-2014, 01:57 PM
#157
NBA Legend
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Wilt has the highest choking rating of alltime. You think that's some kind of coincidence?
Let me boil it down:
Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings
Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3
Karl Malone: 8 + (25.0-24.7) + (25.0-19.6) + (10.1-10.7) + (10.1-9.6) + (3.6-3.2) + (3.6-3.3) + (51.6-46.3) + (51.6-46.0) + (74.2-73.6) + (74.2-67.6) - 0 = 32.4
David Robinson: 6 + (21.1-18.1) + (21.1-13.5) + (10.6-10.6) + (10.6-9.4) + (2.5-2.3) + (2.5-1.5) + (51.8-47.9) + (51.8-49.5) + (73.6-70.8) + (73.6-69.2) - 2 = 30.4
Wow...conclusive evidence. Using some half-baked formula that doesn't take into account their actual PRODUCTION (just a so-called "decline"), and even that is massively distorted (at least in Wilt's case), since Chamberlain only 52 of Wilt's 160 post-season games came in his "scoring seasons", 30 of which were against RUSSELL.
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03-30-2014, 01:57 PM
#158
Kobe Apostle
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Originally Posted by livinglegend
Russell has the lowest!
Another argument for him being the GOAT!
Russ, MJ, and West have a negative rating.
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03-30-2014, 01:58 PM
#159
NBA Legend
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Originally Posted by livinglegend
Russell has the lowest!
Another argument for him being the GOAT!
As a sidenote, Chamberlain held Russell to a considerably lower post-season FG% "decline", as compared to his regular season FG%'s, than Russell did to Wilt.
Not to mention that Wilt was just castrating Russell in scoring and rebounding in the process.
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03-30-2014, 01:58 PM
#160
NBA lottery pick
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Russ, MJ, and West have a negative rating.
Who has the lowest?
Gotta be Russell.
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03-30-2014, 02:01 PM
#161
2010-2020
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Shouldn't even be a vote, the first name that popped up in everyone head was none other than LeBran.
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03-30-2014, 02:07 PM
#162
Kobe Apostle
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
Wow...conclusive evidence. Using some half-baked formula that doesn't take into account their actual PRODUCTION (just a so-called "decline"), and even that is massively distorted (at least in Wilt's case), since Chamberlain only 52 of Wilt's 160 post-season games came in his "scoring seasons", 30 of which were against RUSSELL.
1960-1966 Wilt "scoring prime"
2 + (39.6-32.8) + (39.6-29.2) + (24.8-26.4) + (24.8-27.6) + (3.4-3.2) + (3.4-2.4) + (51.1-50.5) + (51.1-52.7) + (54.8-52.3) + (54.8-41.5) - 0 = 30.8
Only Karl Malone has a higher rating, that's only if were removing Wilt's entire career which is #1.
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03-30-2014, 02:09 PM
#163
NBA Legend
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Russ, MJ, and West have a negative rating.
Russell's regular season FG% vs Wilt in their playoff series H2H's...
59-60
Regular season: .467
Playoffs against Wilt .446
61-62:
Regular season: .457
Playoffs against Wilt: .399
63-64:
Regular season: .433
Playoffs against Wilt: .386
64-65:
Regular season: .438
Playoffs against Wilt: .447
65-66:
Regular season: .415
Playoffs against Wilt: .451
66-67:
Regular season: .454
Playoffs against Wilt: .358
67-68:
Regular season: .425
Playoffs against Wilt: .440
68-69:
Regular season: .433
Playoffs against Wilt: .397
And how about Chamberlain:
59-60:
Regular season: .461
Playoffs against Russell: .500
61-62:
Regular season: .506
Playoffs against Russell: .468
63-64:
Regular season: .524
Playoffs against Russell: .517
64-65:
Regular season: .510
Playoffs against Russell: .555
65-66:
Regular season: .540
Playoffs against Russell: .509
66-67:
Regular season: .683
Playoffs against Russell: .556
67-68:
Regular season: .595
Playoffs against Russell: .487
68-69:
Regular season: .583
Playoffs against Russell: .500
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03-30-2014, 02:09 PM
#164
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Livinglegend finna have a meltdown.
Stop bro, im tryna save you.
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03-30-2014, 02:09 PM
#165
Kobe Apostle
Re: ISH vote - Greatest NBA choker of all-time
Originally Posted by livinglegend
Who has the lowest?
Gotta be Russell.
Russell by far.
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