Gragic not top 5 PG

[CelticBaller]

Lol he had 17 twice this year
and multiple 16+ assist game
1 assist off and he scores alot more points then rondo.
and your right Rose didnt score hight % but then again Rose proved he can score while Rondo never has. He cant shoot a jumpshot to save his life.

1st. He's never had a game like that, get the fvck out with your what ifs, rondo is in an exclusive club that Paul can't seem to get in

2nd. He can't shoot to save his life? i could've sworn he scored 44 point against the Heat to keep his team in the game, but he wouldn't be able to save his life?

God your assumptions of rondo are outdated

[CelticBaller]

Also you have John Wall ahead of Rondo even though he scores on shitty %s and can't shoot? Wall can't even pass the ball like Rondo

[grantz]

rondo put up 18 assist with no turn overs the other day

I want to see anybody on that list do that

Assist to turnover ratio currently (2013-2014):

Rondo: 2.86
Wall: 2.45
Curry: 2.28
Goatbrook: 1.74
Dragic: 2.15
CP3: 4.54
Parker: 2.65
Lillard: 2.28
Kyrie: 2.31

Assists for the season:
Rondo: 166
Wall: 559
Curry: 544
Goatbrook: 240
Dragic: 369
CP3: 518
Parker: 328
Lillard: 362
Kyrie: 393

I don't think assists alone is a measure of a good PG but this is a little metric behind assists, which CP3 is quite effective at. Rondo is too small a sample size, and doesn't show nearly the same efficiency as CP (despite the 18/0 ATO which I would put as more a spike).

Getting back to topic because even though this is a Dragic titled thread, it's really more a Westbrook thread, would be if OKC can utilize the unique kind of PG role that Goatbrook brings and translate that into post-season success.

The last playoffs OKC played with WB, WB was IMO the best player in the OKC team. However the real question is if OKC is better off with a traditional PG. Right now I would say no, I want to see what WB does again in the next playoffs.

Question for you all, swap CP3 and WB -- Does this make OKC/Clippers better?

[Jlamb47]

Also you have John Wall ahead of Rondo even though he scores on shitty %s and can't shoot? Wall can't even pass the ball like Rondo

Lol Wall averages 20 points something Rondo can never do
and again 44 point against the HEAT was nice but he LOST and thats ONE GAME
i put Rondo in top 10 i know that hes a great PG your overrating him
and Chris Paul did have 2 17 assist games go check basketball reference. And multiple 16+ assist
and thats only this year
Hes leading league with 11

[joe]

Lol, Irving ahead of Dragic? Right now? Maybe someday the hype will match the actual production, but it's not today.

[Jlamb47]

Assist to turnover ratio currently (2013-2014):

Rondo: 2.86
Wall: 2.45
Curry: 2.28
Goatbrook: 1.74
Dragic: 2.15
CP3: 4.54
Parker: 2.65
Lillard: 2.28
Kyrie: 2.31

Assists for the season:
Rondo: 166
Wall: 559
Curry: 544
Goatbrook: 240
Dragic: 369
CP3: 518
Parker: 328
Lillard: 362
Kyrie: 393

I don't think assists alone is a measure of a good PG but this is a little metric behind assists, which CP3 is quite effective at. Rondo is too small a sample size, and doesn't show nearly the same efficiency as CP (despite the 18/0 ATO which I would put as more a spike).

Getting back to topic because even though this is a Dragic titled thread, it's really more a Westbrook thread, would be if OKC can utilize the unique kind of PG role that Goatbrook brings and translate that into post-season success.

The last playoffs OKC played with WB, WB was IMO the best player in the OKC team. However the real question is if OKC is better off with a traditional PG. Right now I would say no, I want to see what WB does again in the next playoffs.

Question for you all, swap CP3 and WB -- Does this make OKC/Clippers better?

I think it makes Clippers better and OKC maybe better maybe not. I think Russell would make Clippers a real problem iwth him and blake running the floor together. That would be insane athlethicsm with Jordan too. He could drive and draw doubles. OKC would have a better playmaker but not scorer witch they need.

[CelticBaller]

on 43%
shit Rondo can easily do that, but if Rondo was putting that people would keep bitching about how he can't shoot

[grantz]

I think it makes Clippers better and OKC maybe better maybe not. I think Russell would make Clippers a real problem iwth him and blake running the floor together. That would be insane athlethicsm with Jordan too. He could drive and draw doubles. OKC would have a better playmaker but not scorer witch they need.

This I agree with, I think both teams would be better, but if they faced off I think the Clippers would win. With the current setup though I think OKC would still likely beat the Clippers.

Westbrook is really an enigma.

[Jlamb47]

on 43%
shit Rondo can easily do that, but if Rondo was putting that people would keep bitching about how he can't shoot

When rondo scores 20 points a game then talk about it but he cant. Even when Allen Pierce and Garnett are gone he cant score at will.

[Jlamb47]

This I agree with, I think both teams would be better, but if they faced off I think the Clippers would win. With the current setup though I think OKC would still likely beat the Clippers.

Westbrook is really an enigma.

Heck yeah. Imagine if they really made that trade lol that would be crazy

[CelticBaller]

When rondo scores 20 points a game then talk about it but he cant. Even when Allen Pierce and Garnett are gone he cant score at will.

wait? first was how his assist were dependent on the big 3, now its his ppg? gtfo, the guy came back from a fvcking acl injury ffs, yet he has shown before that he can score

[MichaelCorleone]

Are you fkin' kidding me with this shit?

And spell his name correct idiot.

[Jlamb47]

Are you fkin' kidding me with this shit?

And spell his name correct idiot.

My bad hes not that important so idc to spell his name correctly and yes im serious
hes not top 5 IDIOT
Your just a Ledron Dragic d1ck rider

[Jlamb47]

wait? first was how his assist were dependent on the big 3, now its his ppg? gtfo, the guy came back from a fvcking acl injury ffs, yet he has shown before that he can score

No i never said his assist depended on the Big 3 im saying that he cant even score 20 ppg when the big 3 are gone.
I think Rondo is the 2nd best passer in the league behind Chris Paul. Chris Paul averages 11 assist a game while scoring 16-17 ppg.

[MichaelCorleone]

My bad hes not that important so idc to spell his name correctly and yes im serious
hes not top 5 IDIOT
Your just a Ledron Dragic d1ck rider

I'm not surprised a Spurs fan is hating on Dragic, after all, this happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLWjQ7nZTkI

Oh and btw, Tim Duncan and Manu choked against Lebron.