What would Durant s PPG be without all the touch fouls?

[NumberSix]

Are you talking about just this year? He's averaging nearly 32 PPG this season. So he's getting enough BS calls to inflate his scoring average by 3-4 points? Do people actually believe this? Are the ones saying it'd be more than 1-2 actually believe this?

you really don't believe Durant recieves a mere 2 bad calls per game?

[Amar'e_Juwanna]

Durant would still be the top scorer in the league without touch fouls, a lot of players get them, Durant gets more obviously but I don't get the point of this thread, the guy is the best scorer in the league regardless.

"Durant gets more obviously" <- the point of the thread (why does he?)

"Durant is the best scorer" <- arguable (because of these fouls!)

"Durant would still be the top scorer" <- also arguable (because hypotheticals)

[Black and White]

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"Durant gets more obviously" <- the point of the thread (why does he?)

"Durant is the best scorer" <- arguable (because of these fouls!)

"Durant would still be the top scorer" <- also arguable (because hypotheticals)

Is this just another prop up LeBron thread?


EDIT: Just saw the OP is a massive LeBron homer

[NumberSix]

Is this just another prop up LeBron thread?

He's a Melo fan. Have you read a single post in this thread?

[LoneyROY7]

As a Knicks fan I definitely agree with your point about Melo. The slightly underappreciated facet of the bs calls Durant gets is that he knows he's going to get it unless he is given a wider berth of "openness" for his shot - this clearly contributes to his confidence!

Of course I cant prove it at all, but I think his understanding of the way his game is being refereed allows him to approach scoring (especially jump shooting) with more ease and confidence. This, plus the fact that a fouled miss isn't counted, really is why he appears so efficient.

I want to make clear that I'm not a stan or anything, and I think Durant is clearly a better jump shooter than Melo, clearly more athletic and better in transition, better defender, has accomplished more, and I don't want to take away from him. (I would say Melo is overall the better "scorer") I can't ignore the blatant favoritism he receives, though.

To be honest, what gives Durant a slight edge in terms of scoring is his finishing ability.

Melo misses a lot of bunnies and shots at the rim, that Durant for the most part doesn't. Hence the difference in ppg and efficiency. Yes, Durant does get some favorable calls that Melo doesn't over the breadth of games...but I would say that finishing ability is more of a factor than FTs is when is comes to comparing the two.

[Black and White]

He's a Melo fan. Have you read a single post in this thread?

The touch fouls alone cannot account for the 3-4 ppg lead he has, are you suggesting that most of his fouls are BS? Because the same can be said for many players in the league, why not bring up Harden then?

[B4llin]

You guys are idiots. If Durant didn't get fouled he would average 35+ ppg

[NumberSix]

To be honest, what gives Durant a slight edge in terms of scoring is his finishing ability.

Melo misses a lot of bunnies and shots at the rim, that Durant for the most part doesn't. Hence the difference in ppg and efficiency. Yes, Durant does get some favorable calls that Melo doesn't over the breadth of games...but I would say that finishing ability is more of a factor than FTs is when is comes to comparing the two.

Yes, because when Melo gets hacked at the rim, they don't call it. When Durant blows a layup or a dunk, refs decide he MUST have been fouled.

[Droid101]

[Marlo_Stanfield]

28 MAX on lower efficency.
what people fail to udnerstand is he doesnt only get AT LEAST 1-2 absolute disgusting BS calls per game but it also changes how they defend him.
after two BS calls in a row he can cakewalk to his next 3-4 lay ups without anyone daring to come near him.
its the same with harden.

[LoneyROY7]

Yes, because when Melo gets hacked at the rim, they don't call it. When Durant blows a layup or a dunk, refs decide he MUST have been fouled.

I can agree with that to an extent...but Durant also dunks a lot of shots at the rim that Melo may miss due to laying it up instead (whether he's hacked or not).

Like I said, Melo certainly does not get all the calls that Durant does...that's not even debatable really. But I think there are factors beyond FTs that separate the two scoring-wise.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

The touch fouls alone cannot account for the 3-4 ppg lead he has, are you suggesting that most of his fouls are BS? Because the same can be said for many players in the league, why not bring up Harden then?

harden is a the same or worse.
while durant is a very skilled and smart basketball player and a freak of nature, Harden is just a complete joke.
unathletic, fat, lazy streaky shooter, turnover machine.
only thing he has are sick handles and his disgusting flopping game.
i feel bad for houston fans because they have to root for such a POS

[Milbuck]

Harden is just a complete joke.
unathletic, fat, lazy streaky shooter, turnover machine.
only thing he has are sick handles and his disgusting flopping game.
i feel bad for houston fans because they have to root for such a POS

[NumberSix]

The touch fouls alone cannot account for the 3-4 ppg lead he has, are you suggesting that most of his fouls are BS? Because the same can be said for many players in the league, why not bring up Harden then?

That's only 2 fouls a game.

Last time he played the Heat, he got bailed out on 2 separate 3 pointers. That's 6 free throws right there. The first game, his first 7 points of the game were all bailouts including a ridiculous goal tend call + an extra free throw off a foul that wasn't even a shooting foul.

I really question how much you watch Durant if you don't think Durant gets a mere 3-4 points worth of soft calls every night. It's only 1 or 2 calls a game which I think is pretty conservative.

You're out of your minds if you think Durant doesn't get at least 2 bad calls per game.

[BigMacAttack]

you really don't believe Durant recieves a mere 2 bad calls per game?

Prove it is more.

20-30 really bad calls should be easy to find from this season if its is more then 2.