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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
That's the other point. Healthy Wade puts more pressure on a defense than 1991 - 1993 Scottie Pippen. LeBron is afforded easier baskets given the talent he's playing with.
1991-93 bulls where better than Miami currently is. stop lying
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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Originally Posted by Marlo_Stanfield
1991-93 bulls where better than Miami currently is. stop lying
Well yea, they're better because the GOAT, #23. He didn't quit on his team as favorites in the Finals. Better because they didn't let teams linger around. They stomped them out. Didn't need to go 7 games in the Finals, either.
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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Originally Posted by Donkey4trading
i wouldn't say it drops off a cliff, everybody's fg% drops in the post season.
with a healthy wad the defense wont be as focused on lebron as they were last year
focused on Lebron as in leave him wide open from 20 ft up, single coverage? How well did he shoot then? It was 45%ish.
Lebron's high fg% comes from getting great looks due to him being such a passing threat(he has great teammates now), he has 3pt shooters(Allen,Battier,Chalmers), a good scoring big(Bosh) and an elite wing player(Wade) spacing the floor for him, he gets single coverage, guys sag off him so he doesn't bulldoze to the rim. That leads to his improved 3pt% and overall the improved fg%. You can't double Lebron when you play against Miami.
Elite defenses will make Bron work hard for those layups and dunks that he gets against bad teams in the regular season. He had Boris Diaw and Kawhi leonard on him in the Finals and his fg% was under 40% before the last two games(when his jumper started falling).
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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Well yea, they're better because the GOAT, #23. He didn't quit on his team as favorites in the Finals. Better because they didn't let teams linger around. They stomped them out. Didn't need to go 7 games in the Finals, either.
LeBron hasnt quit since enterin his prime either and MJ quit against the Pistons too
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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Originally Posted by Marlo_Stanfield
LeBron hasnt quit since enterin his prime either and MJ quit against the Pistons too
You say outlandish shit to make people hate LeBron. I hope no one takes you seriously and thinks you're a fan of LeBron.
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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Originally Posted by Marlo_Stanfield
LeBron hasnt quit since enterin his prime either and MJ quit against the Pistons too
No, LeBron has literally quit mid series on his team 2x times in his absolute prime. As favorites no less.
MJ got frustrated for like a game with a sub par, mentally weak cast they continually crumbled under pressure before they broke through against Detroit. He wasn't giving up mid series, looking disengaged in winnable series ala LeBron in 2010, and 2011.
MJ got over the hump by enduring, he didn't cowardly bolt for greener pastures to circumvent the process, making things as easy as possible.
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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
No, LeBron has literally quit mid series on his team 2x times in his absolute prime. As favorites no less.
MJ got frustrated for like a game with a sub par, mentally weak cast before they broke through against Detroit. He wasn't giving up mid series, looking disengaged in winnable series ala LeBron in 2010, and 2011.
MJ got over the hump by enduring, he didn't cowardly bolt for greener pastures to circumvent the process, making things as easy as possible.
Lebrons absolute prime started in 2012 and 2011 were chemistry issues too. though i admit he quit against the Mavs
he redeemed himself tho
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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Originally Posted by Marlo_Stanfield
Lebrons absolute prime started in 2012
No, it started in 2009. He didn't quit against the 2010 Boston Celtics? I mean literally after game 3 he looked totally disengaged the entire rest of the series. Was passive. Padded, and put up hollow box scores. He quit. Couldn't wait to take off his Cavs jersey.
That coward status.
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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Oh look, another thread full of subjective bullshit and jerking off to men. Just another day on ISH.
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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
No, it started in 2009.
na jumper was to streaky back then. lets say LeBron has two primes. one started in 08-09 and the real prime started in 2012. lets wait for 3 more years till we judge his peak doe
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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Originally Posted by Donkey4trading
Who ya got?
Just remember that this is a little unfair to Jordan since his averages are over the course of an entire season, while Lebron's are over 36 games. One sample size is an entire season while the other is half a season.
Jordan @ 29: 32.6ppg/6.7rpg/5.5apg 2.8 steals/0.8 blocks on 49.5% FG, 35% from 3 & 84% FT. 2.7 turnovers per game
Lebron @ 29: 26.0ppg/6.6rpg/6.5apg 1.3 steal/0.3 blocks on 59.1% FG 40.5 % from 3 & 75% FT. 3.5 turnovers per game
Jordan's team won a championship that year & Jordan took home FMVP. The HEAT are the favorite to do the same.
Season isn't over yet and MJ turned 29 years old in the 1992 season. It would be better if you calculate MJ stats compared to LeBron James stats at this point of the season.
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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
No, it started in 2009. He didn't quit against the 2010 Boston Celtics? I mean literally after game 3 he looked totally disengaged the entire rest of the series. Was passive. Padded, and put up hollow box scores. He quit. Couldn't wait to take off his Cavs jersey.
That coward status.
after 7years of carrying this sorry azz team he had to go up against a celtics superteam again and he finally quit.
you really gon blame him for that??
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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Originally Posted by Marlo_Stanfield
na jumper was to streaky back then.
That doesn't mean he wasn't in his prime. In 2009 he made the leap to best player in the game. It was the clear cut start of his prime. His 6th season in the league. His peak will probably end up being 2010 - 2012.
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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Originally Posted by Marlo_Stanfield
after 7years of carrying this sorry azz team he had to go up against a celtics superteam again and he finally quit
Team wasn't that bad. Best defense, and rebounding team in the league. Either way, you don't quit mid way in a series like that on any team.
This wasn't a competitive guy, frustrated with circumstances for a game. Whole, winnable series ... AS FAVORITES and he quit.
He also quit with the most talent in the league on his team in 2011 doe.
As I said, dat coward status.
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Re: Lebron season at 29 vs MJ's season at 29
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
That doesn't mean he wasn't in his prime. In 2009 he made the leap to best player in the game. It was the clear cut start of his prime. His 6th season in the league. His peak will probably end up being 2010 - 2012.
hes now better than ever i dont think he already peaked and if so hes still in it
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