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  1. #31
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    Default Re: USA Today's GOAT ranking system

    Championship Ring- 1
    Finals MVP- 1
    League MVP- 3
    All-NBA first team- 5
    All-Defensive first team- 4
    All-Star team- 0
    Season statistical title- 2
    Playoff statistical title- 3
    Career average leader- 3
    Career playoff average leader- 4
    Career total leader- 0 (only reason to add totals is to reward longevity, but that is already "included" with all-nba teams)
    Career playoff total leader- 0

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    Default Re: USA Today's GOAT ranking system

    Here's to make it easy to calculate the GOAT list once you come up with your own formula.

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    Stopped reading at 'points for All-Star selections'.

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    [QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmt
    Using YOUR playoff statistical titles, wouldn't Duncan also have:

    3x playoff points titles (99, 03, 05)
    4x playoff rebound titles (99, 03, 05, 07)
    Those are yearly playoff totals.

    Statistical "titles" is highest per game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdreason
    Stopped reading at 'points for All-Star selections'.
    Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP.Trey
    What a joke of a list. They don't even factor Xmas MVP in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnFreeman
    NBA finals MVP is only two points? Stupid poll.

    This

    Stupid ranking system

    Championship as the no.1 = 5 points
    Championship as a sidekick 2 1/2
    championship as a 3rd scoring option = 1.5

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    Let me give examples to these so people know what I'm talking about.

    Season statistical title = ex. Wilt in '62 led the league in PPG
    Playoff statistical title = ex. MJ in '93 led the playoffs in PPG
    Career average leader = ex. Magic has the highest regular season career APG
    Career playoff average leader = ex. Russell has the highest playoff career RPG
    Career total leader = ex. Kareem has the most career regular season points
    Career playoff total leader = ex. MJ has the most career playoff points

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP.Trey
    What a joke of a list. They don't even factor Xmas MVP in.
    Xmas as in Christmas? Never heard of that award.

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    How does this look?

    Championship Ring = 5
    Finals MVP = 4
    League MVP = 5
    All-NBA first team = 2
    All-Defensive first team = 1
    All-Star team = 0 Since everybody doesn't want it
    Season statistical title = 2
    Playoff statistical title = 2
    Career average leader = 6
    Career playoff average leader = 6
    Career total leader = 6
    Career playoff total leader = 6

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    Winning a championship should be worth less. Just winning a championship shouldn't be the equivalent of winning a regular season MVP. I'd say FMVP + championship should be worth more then the regular season MVP, but not by themselves.

    And FMVP should be worth more relative to the championship. The FMVP should not be getting 7 points total while every other player on a championship team gets 5 points. There should be a wider gap.

    All-Star MVPs should literally not even be included. Its irrelevant.

    Statistical titles and career leaders should not be included. That literally means a player could be second in EVERYTHING and wouldn't get shit for it. I'd say it should just be based on the actual stats. For example, if a player averaged 30 or more ppg he gets 5 points, 25-30 he gets 4 points, 20-25 points he gets 3 points, etc.

    And I'm just responding to the idea. I don't actually think there's a good way to do this. So much context is left out in these.
    Last edited by guy; 01-13-2014 at 12:11 AM.

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    How many points for playing with the Bucks? Kareem's gotta be the gOAT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milbuck
    How many points for playing with the Bucks? Kareem's gotta be the gOAT
    screw the bucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    Those are yearly playoff totals.

    Statistical "titles" is highest per game.
    So by your criteria, if some one scores/rebounds/assists a lot in only one game and doesn't even play in the other games and/or their team loses (gets swept in the 1st round), they'd get x amount of points toward a GOAT system. That shows how flawed your criteria is - at least going by totals instead would mean that he got to the Finals or won.
    Last edited by rmt; 01-13-2014 at 01:14 AM.

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