Lebron James & Paul Pierce: The only FMVPs in 20+ years to..

[imnew09]

To conclude this theory, both of them are lil btches

[Magic 32]

To conclude this theory, both of them are lil btches

[MMM]

Paul Pierce top 5 in many Celtics(best or 2nd best Franchise) all time stats
Came out on top against 2 of the league greats in 08
2nd Best SF of the 00s

respect his legacy
hopefully ehe resigns as a celtics next season so he can retire in green

[ripthekik]

Technically you might be correct....

But hypothetically no...

You can play like an all-star and not be voted into that due to various eccentric circumstances... or you can be a guy who does not play better than some guys who hence deserved to be all-stars that year over you, but you still got it over them/him due to your name/past....

The year mr Clutch (Chauncey Billups) won the FMVP, he wasnt even an all-star... and played better than all his all-star teammates who were in their prime / at their best to get the FMVP... after that he got the recognition he deserved from fans and he finally got to be an all-star technically for many years, but that was the moment he hypothetically did become an all-star and he sure didnt play any differentely compared to his all-star years....

Tim Duncan & Tony Parker won FMVP with Manu Ginobili, Parker/Manu were all-stars technically back & forth before and after some championship runs, but they always did play like all-stars during those championship runs, they were in their prime-prime.

Michael Jordan won FMVP with Scottie Pippen.... and Dennis Rodman.... Dennis was not technically an all-star during the mid 90s (shockingly, that is true), but hypothetically yes he was, he wasnt doing anything different than the 2 years he was an all-star.... Toni Kukoc was around there to, the only reason he wasnt an All-Star was due to who he was sharing the ball with.... with a starting spot & minutes (especially if it was a scrub team) Toni Kukoc would have guaranteed been a 20-10-6 guy (+ im a biased Croatian)....

Hakeem Olajuwon won FMVP with Clyde Drexler and Otis Thorpe who was on the all-star team just before the championship runs, but during those runs he was actually playing BETTER than the year was on the all-star team....

There is many other championship teams you could even argue there being 3 guys who played like all-stars.... like 1999 Lakers (Shaq, Kobe, Rice).... 2009 (Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum)....

So it depends on what you consider is an All-Star.... a guy who plays like an all-star or a guy who was voted into the All-Star team?

Here we go, the defending essay

tldr tho

[BlackVVaves]

@Pauk

Artest was a Rocket that year you are referring to (2009). And, he certainly wasn't an All Star in 2010 averaging 11 points per on 41% shooting.

Agree with most of your post, though it should be added that more times than not, players highlighted with the all star selection are a tad better at the least than the borderline all stars that didn't make it.

Every year there's one or two exceptions. But the other 10 or 12 members of the team usually deserve the selection. Because they are amongst the top tier of the league at their position.

[Droid101]

Technically you might be correct....

But hypothetically no...

You can play like an all-star and not be voted into that due to various eccentric circumstances... or you can be a guy who does not play better than some guys who hence deserved to be all-stars that year over you, but you still got it over them/him due to your name/past....

The year mr Clutch (Chauncey Billups) won the FMVP, he wasnt even an all-star... and played better than all his all-star teammates who were in their prime / at their best to get the FMVP... after that he got the recognition he deserved from fans and he finally got to be an all-star technically for many years, but that was the moment he hypothetically did become an all-star and he sure didnt play any differentely compared to his all-star years....

Tim Duncan & Tony Parker won FMVP with Manu Ginobili, Parker/Manu were all-stars technically back & forth before and after some championship runs, but they always did play like all-stars during those championship runs, they were in their prime-prime.

Michael Jordan won FMVP with Scottie Pippen.... and Dennis Rodman.... Dennis was not technically an all-star during the mid 90s (shockingly, that is true), but hypothetically yes he was, he wasnt doing anything different than the 2 years he was an all-star.... Toni Kukoc was around there to, the only reason he wasnt an All-Star was due to who he was sharing the ball with.... with a starting spot & minutes (especially if it was a scrub team) Toni Kukoc would have guaranteed been a 20-10-6 guy (+ im a biased Croatian)....

Hakeem Olajuwon won FMVP with Clyde Drexler and Otis Thorpe who was on the all-star team just before the championship runs, but during those runs he was actually playing BETTER than the year was on the all-star team....

There is many other championship teams you could even argue there being 3 guys who played like all-stars.... like 1999 Lakers (Shaq, Kobe, Rice).... 2009 (Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum)....

So it depends on what you consider is an All-Star.... a guy who plays like an all-star or a guy who was voted into the All-Star team?

[riseagainst]

rrr3 stop being a creep and stalking others, wtf.
How's that depression coming along btw?

oh, and on topic, yes. This needs to be known.

[riseagainst]

[BlazerRed]

Technically you might be correct....

But hypothetically no...

You can play like an all-star and not be voted into that due to various eccentric circumstances... or you can be a guy who does not play better than some guys who hence deserved to be all-stars that year over you, but you still got it over them/him due to your name/past....

The year mr Clutch (Chauncey Billups) won the FMVP, he wasnt even an all-star... and played better than all his all-star teammates who were in their prime / at their best to get the FMVP... after that he got the recognition he deserved from fans and he finally got to be an all-star technically for many years, but that was the moment he hypothetically did become an all-star and he sure didnt play any differentely compared to his all-star years....

Tim Duncan & Tony Parker won FMVP with Manu Ginobili, Parker/Manu were all-stars technically back & forth before and after some championship runs, but they always did play like all-stars during those championship runs, they were in their prime-prime.

Michael Jordan won FMVP with Scottie Pippen.... and Dennis Rodman.... Dennis was not technically an all-star during the mid 90s (shockingly, that is true), but hypothetically yes he was, he wasnt doing anything different than the 2 years he was an all-star.... Toni Kukoc was around there to, the only reason he wasnt an All-Star was due to who he was sharing the ball with.... with a starting spot & minutes (especially if it was a scrub team) Toni Kukoc would have guaranteed been a 20-10-6 guy (+ im a biased Croatian)....

Hakeem Olajuwon won FMVP with Clyde Drexler and Otis Thorpe who was on the all-star team just before the championship runs, but during those runs he was actually playing BETTER than the year was on the all-star team....

There is many other championship teams you could even argue there being 3 guys who played like all-stars.... like 1999 Lakers (Shaq, Kobe, Rice).... 2009 (Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum)....

So it depends on what you consider is an All-Star.... a guy who plays like an all-star or a guy who was voted into the All-Star team?

Disappointed in the effort brother, I think it needed to be longer to really drill your point home