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    Default Re: Knicks fans: Are you ashamed at the way your team abandoned Linsanity?

    The Knicks thought adding Jason Kidd and Raymond Felton would be better and cheaper than keeping Lin.

    Now Kidd is retired and Felton is in decline, while Lin has improved.

    Also they didn't want to pay the luxury tax because of players like Chandler adn Stoudemire. Chandler is hurt, while Stoudemire's best days are past him.

    The luxury tax argument isn't really a good one, since the Knicks could have kept Lin and then waived Stoudemire via the stretch provision to reduce the tax hit.

    The Knicks made a decision, and it simply didn't work out. Sometimes these things happen.

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    Default Re: Knicks fans: Are you ashamed at the way your team abandoned Linsanity?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkfan
    The Knicks thought adding Jason Kidd and Raymond Felton would be better and cheaper than keeping Lin.

    Now Kidd is retired and Felton is in decline, while Lin has improved.

    Also they didn't want to pay the luxury tax because of players like Chandler adn Stoudemire. Chandler is hurt, while Stoudemire's best days are past him.

    The luxury tax argument isn't really a good one, since the Knicks could have kept Lin and then waived Stoudemire via the stretch provision to reduce the tax hit.

    The Knicks made a decision, and it simply didn't work out. Sometimes these things happen.
    Are we sure it didn't work out? Lin seems to be the most inconsistent player in the league. Last year he played like s[COLOR="Black"]hi[/COLOR]t and it is inarguable that Felton and Kidd were better. This year? He looks better now that his role is reduced; but the fact remains that he doesn't play that well with Harden (or Melo for that matter) .

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    Default Re: Knicks fans: Are you ashamed at the way your team abandoned Linsanity?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2LeTTeRS
    Are we sure it didn't work out? Lin seems to be the most inconsistent player in the league. Last year he played like s[COLOR="Black"]hi[/COLOR]t and it is inarguable that Felton and Kidd were better. This year? He looks better now that his role is reduced; but the fact remains that he doesn't play that well with Harden (or Melo for that matter) .
    What do Harden and Howard do to make Lin better? Or for that matter, make any of their teammates better?

    Lin's coming off the bench, but he is still playing starter's minutes.

    He's a work in progress - a lot of point guards take time to develop. He's no different.

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    Default Re: Knicks fans: Are you ashamed at the way your team abandoned Linsanity?

    Quote Originally Posted by tontoz
    That team had a winning record in the 16 games he didn't play. They kept on winning after he left too.

    And you didn't answer my question.
    they did worst than tha knicks in tha playoffs and stop lying, without melo tha nuggets would never went to tha west finals dat year

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    Default Re: Knicks fans: Are you ashamed at the way your team abandoned Linsanity?

    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatethunder
    Lin is not a high IQ player at all. If here were, he would be effective without the ball in his hands but alas, this dude needs to have the ball to make even a marginal impact.

    He is not a good passer. He is an average passer at best. He is averaging 4.7 assists this year to 3.1 turnovers.

    The only thing that he's good at is scoring in bunches when he's hot. If he's not hot and doesn't have the ball, he's useless.

    In addition, in the playoffs last year he was almost non existent and was getting burnt on defense non stop. Shooting a red hot 25% averaging 4 pts 2 assists and 2 turnovers a game.

    I hate the Knicks but there was no reason to keep him at the numbers Houston was giving him. He actually turned his back on the Knicks when they were trying to keep him. Houston is regretting that contract for sure. Kobe wouldn't have helped him cut down on his turnovers or any other part of his game. Kobe would have expected Lin to be worthy of his contract, which he is not. Kobe would have eaten this dude alive and made him his new Smush Parker. I'm no Laker fan either.
    What? Like Steve Nash and other good PGs that need the ball in their hands to be effective?

    Anyway, he is a above average passer and a very good playmaker. The fact that he can drive and shoot, creates more options with his teammates and creates better spacing. His ball security isn't that good and he is clumsy with it. He'll drive, and don't pick up his dribble, and look for teammate which would result in turnovers sometimes.

    And in the playoffs he was injured, wasn't he? Couldn't even play in some games?

    Regardless, Lin was very inconsistent last year. The way he is playing right now tho is what the Knicks would want. I don't know if their situation would change that much, but he would be better than having Felton. And the Lakers would like a guy like Lin too. Especially with Mike D'Antoni there.

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    Default Re: Knicks fans: Are you ashamed at the way your team abandoned Linsanity?

    No, it was a ridiculous amount of money, and it's not the missing piece we need. If he was 6'10'' and played defense, then i'd be upset.

    Why ashamed? None of us work for the Knicks, and this is sports. If anything makes you ashamed then you need to re-examine your life and your priorities.

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    Default Re: Knicks fans: Are you ashamed at the way your team abandoned Linsanity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pointguard
    Wow, and no shame in exposing yourself either.

    You are a complete idiot, you don't watch games or know how to keep up on a message board. Why are you here? When Felton was on last year the Knicks were thriving. He was driving and dishing and Tyson Chandler was shooting 700% while the Knicks were the best shooting team in the league. But he lost his confidence in there and the tides changed. Ask any of the Knick fans. If you don't know, just don't join the conversation.
    we talking about this season, lost his confidence? More like gained a gut

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    Default Re: Knicks fans: Are you ashamed at the way your team abandoned Linsanity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teanett
    so? who's talking about last year or 2011?
    felton is shit now, just like amar'e is hurt.
    even last year he would get lit up by kemba walker.
    lin had far more potential and everybody with half a brain knew it.
    The conversation was about when Felton was on not the year. He's not much help now.

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    Default Re: Knicks fans: Are you ashamed at the way your team abandoned Linsanity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pointguard
    The conversation was about when Felton was on not the year. He's not much help now.
    when felton was on? on what? a big mac diet?

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    Default Re: Knicks fans: Are you ashamed at the way your team abandoned Linsanity?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2LeTTeRS
    Check the bottom of the article you quoted; It says the following ---

    [COLOR="SlateGray"]Update, 5:20 p.m. EDT: We got the luxury tax rate wrong, as the Knicks were over the salary cap this past season, but not over the luxury tax threshold. So the "repeat offender" hike would kick in in 2015-2016. ESPN, after consultation from Larry Coon, downgraded the maximum Lin would cost the Knicks to $43 million.[/COLOR]

    My apologies;

    Yall will be fine. I had Houston as a top three team in wins in the Western conference and its still possible. Injuries, thank goodness minor, have got in the way and some meshing problems, which is fine as even Miami had them. Its really hard for young teams to figure out how to handle pressure as a group and its easier when players really know other players tendency.

    Thanks for pointing out the salary cap thing. I wonder if Dolan misunderstood it but he definitely sold it to the media that it was practically undoable.

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    Default Re: Knicks fans: Are you ashamed at the way your team abandoned Linsanity?

    Not really. Linsanity was a month thing.

    If he was on our team right now he'd be putting up 16/3/6 type numbers, nothing special. We wouldn't even be that much better with him honestly.

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