Bird and Lebron passing video

[KyleKong]

Ah, another one of Pauk's sock account makes an appearance! Sorry, it is a fact that lockout rings are not real rings. They are either * rings or worth 1/4 a real ring.

How shortened were the playoffs again?

[Miller for 3]

How shortened were the playoffs again?

Well, considering we beat the Knicks with no Lin, Shumpert, or Davis, the Pacers with an injured Granger, the Celtics with no Bradley, the Thunder with no Maynor, plus Howard, Rose, Horford, etc. were hurt, I would say the playoffs were worth about 2-3 real playoff season games.

[KyleKong]

Well, considering we beat the Knicks with no Lin, Shumpert, or Davis, the Pacers with an injured Granger, the Celtics with no Bradley, the Thunder with no Maynor, plus Howard, Rose, Horford, etc. were hurt, I would say the playoffs were worth about 2-3 real playoff season games.

Reaching for straws at this point.

[aj1987]

As a Heat fan (my username is for Mike Miller, but I lost an avy bet so I have a Pacers avatar), I was overjoyed, but still a little dubious given the fact it took us playing a sub .500 team in the first round, the Rose/Deng-less Bulls with an injured Noah, the Grangerless Pacers, and the Spurs with an injured Parker. And we were very lucky that Westbrook, Gallo, Kobe, Lee, etc. got hurt.

And it was his first ring, lockout rings don't count.

GTFO. Whose alt are you?

Miami already faced a Bulls team WITH Rose/Deng, a Pacers team WITH Granger (and without Bosh), and a Thunder team with a healthy Westbrook and Harden. Kobe/Gallo/Lee?

[plowking]

It is virtually unanimous consensus among hoops aficionados that Bird had at the very least slightly better vision and reflexes for getting a pass off than Lebron - his assists aren't inflated because he wasn't as dominant on the ball as Lebron, but he was the better passer. Show a child a Larry Bird passing video, and a Lebron passing video and the child is going to go "whoahhhhhh" a lot more often in the Larry Bird video. He had more creativity, awareness and his passes looked much more difficult to execute. This has been discussed a couple of hundred times already, all leading to the same consensus at the end. Bird was the better passer, Lebron just has more assists because he is ball dominant. Not really that difficult to understand.

Are you actually really young? You're really bad at debating and getting your point across.

Aficionados? Yeah... the people on this forum who dislike the Heat.

[tmacattack33]

I can't say if Lebron is a better passer than Bird. I've maybe seen one or two whole games of Bird. Highlight videos don't show you the whole picture.

All i know is that Rondo, C. Paul, D Williams, and Lebron are at the top of the passing game today.

[#number6ix#]

Well, considering we beat the Knicks with no Lin, Shumpert, or Davis, the Pacers with an injured Granger, the Celtics with no Bradley, the Thunder with no Maynor, plus Howard, Rose, Horford, etc. were hurt, I would say the playoffs were worth about 2-3 real playoff season games.

What about bosh missing all of the pacers series and most of the celtic series... Or that doesn't matter

[Simple Jack]

Show me that Santa Clause doesn't exist...

You can't prove someone a negative. As Lebron's biggest homer on the planet, your convinced that dude walks on water better than Jesus - how do you expect anyone to prove to you that he doesn't? All I can tell you is consensus and even just casual observer watching footage is Bird > Lebron when it comes to passing and it isn't just occasional Lebron trolls like me who believe this - real hoops fans have gone over this many many times. Just like when it comes to shooting. Or post moves. Bird was better at many if not virtually every single skill-related facet of the game than Lebron, he had to be because he wasn't as gifted as Lebron. To an objective fan, Lebron is a better athlete than Bird, Bird is more skilled and this includes his ability to pass.

You actually can prove a negative in that regard. I can prove there is no such entity that will strike me down after writing this sentence. (the fact that i didn't die after writing this, proves that doesn't exist).

[Asukal]

CavaliersFTW look at these passes for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkaS5xK1RSI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT-zh...tailpage#t=522
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aATBTl-oKE


You wont find any footage of Bird throwing the ball at that velocity with the slightest movement of his wrist..... unless he heaved the ball like a baseball pitcher...

You need just give up denying this, really doesnt make sense... its like denying a blue pen being blue, because you would prefer the red pen to be blue....

It doesnt matter who you choose here in this department, but Lebron definitely has more snap in his passes...

Do you realize a great pass is more than just high velocity?

[Hoopz2332]

Could Bird make this pass?




another good one....out of the post/seal

▶ LeBron James With a Beautiful Behind-the-Back Pass to Anderson Varejao - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V2P9-ezKmw


LeBron Behind The Back Pass Vs Magic (5.26.09) (one handed block/bassline)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF8vlyksfic

▶ LeBron James Behind-the-Back Pass to Big Z (10.30.09) - YouTube (similar pass but to Big z)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMMFXA8s8ik


made this look simple but it's not!

LeBron James' sick inbound behind the back pass to Mike Miller

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykkzkQXekoQ

different angle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHImjtjKGCo

[Champ]

Could Bird make this pass?




another good one....out of the post/seal

▶ LeBron James With a Beautiful Behind-the-Back Pass to Anderson Varejao - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V2P9-ezKmw


LeBron Behind The Back Pass Vs Magic (5.26.09) (one handed block/bassline)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF8vlyksfic

▶ LeBron James Behind-the-Back Pass to Big Z (10.30.09) - YouTube (similar pass but to Big z)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMMFXA8s8ik


made this look simple but it's not!

LeBron James' sick inbound behind the back pass to Mike Miller

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykkzkQXekoQ

different angle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHImjtjKGCo

Those are great, entertaining passes, but to answer your question, Bird made fancy passes like that on a routine basis, as well.

To be honest, I'm not really impressed by the last one because the player guarding the inbound pass played it so poorly and seemed to lack any real effort.

Both Bird and Lebron were/are great passers and the question as to who's better is highly subjective. I personally feel Bird's assists came in greater variety and were a bit more creative, while Lebron passes with a bit more oomph.

[VIntageNOvel]

There's a big difference between passing because your teammates open and passing because youre too scared to shoot

troll aside both has different approach, bird has score first mentality, he would pass if he doesnt get a good look,
but bron is looking to pass first and try to score himself if no teammates are open (and because hes so good at it, people think hes a scorer like melo/durant when actually he's a pass first player)

[LikeABosh]

Lebron is better at passing the ball off the rim to the other team (aka bricks). So if that counts, then yes Lebron is better at passing (bricks) than Bird.

Probably the lamest thing I've ever read on here. You should be banned for this

[bizil]

My take is Lebron has point guard handles and pace to his game. In terms of vision, I believe they are equal. But Lebron can create better off the dribble. Lebron came into the L as a PG. As great as Bird was, u wouldn't put him at PG. Sure he's a point forward caliber player. Who is as good of a passer from a stationary spot ever. But Bron can create better off the dribble and more like PG's such as Magic, Stockton, Isiah, CP3, Nash, etc. U have SF's or point forwards like Bron, Hill, and Pippen who can flat out play PG, SG, and SF on both sides of the ball. Then u have point forwards like Bird and Barry who in the halfcourt and from a stationary spot can drop dimes as good as anybody.

[Greg Oden 50]

Could Bird make this pass?




another good one....out of the post/seal

▶ LeBron James With a Beautiful Behind-the-Back Pass to Anderson Varejao - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V2P9-ezKmw


LeBron Behind The Back Pass Vs Magic (5.26.09) (one handed block/bassline)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF8vlyksfic

▶ LeBron James Behind-the-Back Pass to Big Z (10.30.09) - YouTube (similar pass but to Big z)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMMFXA8s8ik


made this look simple but it's not!

LeBron James' sick inbound behind the back pass to Mike Miller

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykkzkQXekoQ

different angle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHImjtjKGCo

LUCKY PASSES