Tony Soprano vs Walter White

[alenleomessi]

Who the hell is Linus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBuuT6x4IL4

he is in contention for sure

[andgar923]

Right, if we're going by BB 'logic', he would've had some outlandish and unrealistic plot contrivance and ungodly luck on his side. Like Hank would show up out of the blue somehow to save him at the last second after his initial plan to ricin up Tony's gabagool went awry.

But if we're going with the more reality based Sopranos universe, he gets curb stomped

He wouldn't need none of that.

He'd just play with Tony's head.

You also forget that every show is contrived and has coincidences, that's not an excuse on BB's behalf, that's just reality. We can analyze every show/movie and we'll always have a coincidence.

What makes BB's stick out was the spectacle of it all.

[guy]

The Wire never had a 'main' or central character (except arguably McNulty), so no one from that show can hold the honor seeing as how they were all role players basically. They're the '04 Detroit Pistons of TV.

And Walter White isn't even top 10 all time, let's be serious. Not even the greatest on his own network right now.

Umm let's be serious? Is there really that many great shows and great characters that saying walter white is top 10 is not serious?

[RedBlackAttack]

Unless Walter somehow finds the time to make a light saber out of the lint in his pocket and his shoelaces or some other stupid Inspector Gadget shit and 'Heisenbergs' his way out as usual, he's getting curb stomped

True story. Tony was literally the definition of a badass.

***Possible Spoilers***

Case in point, following his being shot and recovering, he was being driven around by that body builder-esque guy. Tony felt he was starting to lose some of his power because he wasn't quite as strong as normal. So, he set up a situation wherein he beat the dogshit out of the jacked up guy in front of his whole crew.

Harkening back to the scene between Walt and Elliott where Elliott was threatening him with a paring knife, Walt is the one who would need "something bigger than that" against Tony Soprano.

Tony is the greatest antihero in television history. Can't think of anyone who even compares, quite honestly.

[DonDadda59]

He wouldn't need none of that.

He'd just play with Tony's head.

You act like Soprano was some dumb henchman goon. Dude was sharp as a tack, had an IQ of 136. May not have the high school chemistry teacher ability to build a remote controlled M-60 turret ( ). But he can hold his own in criminal politics. Tony was a MUCH more apt criminal than Walt and his incredibly lucky 1 month at the top.

The only thing that even saved MethGyver from a dumb henchman goon like Tuco was the aforementioned plot contrivance. And as far as physical abilities go, dude got his ass handed to him by punk ass Jesse Pinkman on more than one occasion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Rs8xoijQo

You're not much of a 'bad ass' if Jesse Pinkman can kick your ass

[andgar923]

You act like Soprano was some dumb henchman goon. Dude was sharp as a tack, had an IQ of 136. May not have the high school chemistry teacher ability to build a remote controlled M-60 turret ( ). But he can hold his own in criminal politics. Tony was a MUCH more apt criminal than Walt and his incredibly lucky 1 month at the top.

The only thing that even saved MethGyver from a dumb henchman goon like Tuco was the aforementioned plot contrivance. And as far as physical abilities go, dude got his ass handed to him by punk ass Jesse Pinkman on more than one occasion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Rs8xoijQo

You're not much of a 'bad ass' if Jesse Pinkman can kick your ass

YOu're arguing this as if they're real people

[DonDadda59]

Umm let's be serious? Is there really that many great shows and great characters that saying walter white is top 10 is a joke?

Off the top of my head:

Tony Soprano
Don Draper
Homer Simpson
Archie Bunker
George Costanza
Cosmo Kramer
Ralph Kramden
Fred Sanford
Lucy Ricardo

Last spot/honorable mention: Omar Little, Ari Gold, The Fonz. I'm sure there's a bunch of iconic characters I missed, especially females. Speaking of which, Roseanne should be up there somewhere.

IMO the Jesse Pinkman character was the best on BB until they turned him into a crying mannequin in the final run.

Tony is the greatest antihero in television history. Can't think of anyone who even compares, quite honestly.

Yup, easily. Like I said before, the rest just feel like (and really, are) just cheap imitations. I think the closest has been Draper, which makes sense considering his creator learned from the best.

[guy]

Off the top of my head:

Tony Soprano
Don Draper
Homer Simpson
Archie Bunker
George Costanza
Cosmo Kramer
Ralph Kramden
Fred Sanford
Lucy Ricardo

Last spot/honorable mention: Omar Little, Ari Gold, The Fonz. I'm sure there's a bunch of iconic characters I missed, especially females. Speaking of which, Roseanne should be up there somewhere.

IMO the Jesse Pinkman character was the best on BB until they turned him into a crying mannequin in the final run.



Yup, easily. Like I said before, the rest just feel like (and really, are) just cheap imitations. I think the closest has been Draper, which makes sense considering his creator learned from the best.

Fair enough. I was mainly thinking about just dramas, cause I don't really know where to begin when comparing Walt to someone like Kramer. It's like comparing Barkley to LT.

Either way, it's all opinions right? Who's more entertaining to a viewer or not right? Or is there some actual objective measure like in sports?

[CelticBaller]

Are The Sopranos on HBOgo?

[Myth]

Which is the greatest character in TV History?

Marie.

[EMERE]

Yup for me Walter is definitely the greatest tv character ever

The way he utilizes things to his advantage is impressive, the ending was just another reason why I think he's the greatest.

[TylerOO]

Off the top of my head:

Tony Soprano
Don Draper
Homer Simpson
Archie Bunker
George Costanza
Cosmo Kramer
Ralph Kramden
Fred Sanford
Lucy Ricardo

Last spot/honorable mention: Omar Little, Ari Gold, The Fonz. I'm sure there's a bunch of iconic characters I missed, especially females. Speaking of which, Roseanne should be up there somewhere.

IMO the Jesse Pinkman character was the best on BB until they turned him into a crying mannequin in the final run.



Yup, easily. Like I said before, the rest just feel like (and really, are) just cheap imitations. I think the closest has been Draper, which makes sense considering his creator learned from the best.

Don't forget Uncle Jesse.

[Bless Mathews]

I'm going with the man that scored 4 touchdowns in a single football game for Polk High.

Al Bundy is kinda g'ed out.
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[TylerOO]

Yup for me Walter is definitely the greatest tv character ever

The way he utilizes things to his advantage is impressive, the ending was just another reason why I think he's the greatest.

Prisoner of the moment...

[kNicKz]

Tony Soprano >>>>

Some people don't realize that Breaking Bad uses the Sopranos blueprint