More overrated? Kobe's 2006 RS, LeBron's 2007 PS, or Dirk's 2011 Finals?

[Indian guy]

Is that how you feel as a LeBron fan?

Yes. His jumper was beyond broke that year and it seemed like he was still fatigued from a looong 2006 season, which effected his athleticism. He had a few great games in the playoffs, but overall it was mostly an exhibition of the limitations in his game, never more apparent than in that horrid Finals. The East was also horrendous that year. Probably the weakest the conference had been in decades. The '07 Cavaliers wouldn't even make it past the 2nd round in the East from 2008-2012.

[I Will Not Lose]

Kobe 2006, most superstars can put up these numbers when given green light

[DMAVS41]

Its not that upsets dont exist..

Its a combo of stars playing at a low level and costing their team a L and role players stepping up.

Like in the mavs warriors series.. golden state even coming back at full strength wasnt better than the mavs IF dirk played up to his mvp standards. But he didnt.


As far as the heat mavs series the biggest upset of them all.. dirk didnt provide incredible impact there.. his numbers are worse than 10 kobes in the finals. But both teams won. Why? Because the production from pau+role players and terry+role players was about the same. Some dudes on dallas just played abovr their cieling.

Your description of the 11 Finals is exactly what an upset is. LOL

Dirk's finals were nothing special numbers wise. It was his 4th qtr and crunch time play that made them better than the numbers.

But I don't care about Dirk in this sense. It's about the Mavs a team. They upset the Lakers and Heat. And they were quite large underdogs in both series. Just the facts.

[ispin69]

Any top 10 player in the league could abandon the team concept and go for 40+ points every night --- and lose because he's so hated by his team that they no longer care.

[tpols]

Your description of the 11 Finals is exactly what an upset is. LOL

I just wanted to clear things up with who should get credit though.. like youre always saying that golden state wasnt really an underdog because they werent healthy before the playoffs and then got healthy.. but the main reason Mavs lost wasnt because of that, it was because Dirk played like shit.

Dirk has beaten up on plenty of teams better than 07 GS.. so its not like he couldnt play better than he did.


Edit: as far as your comments on the lakers.. again Dirks teammates went OFF in that series and kidd/marion combo shut down kobe just like they shut down Bron.

On top of it being a 2 vs a 3 seed and lakers being burnt out after 3 straight deep playoff runs...


the LA series wasnt close to as big an upset as the Mia one. But again you have to assign credit where its due. Dirks impact in the biggest upset by far took a miracle combination of Bron stop playing and role players playing great.

[DMAVS41]

I just wanted to clear things up with who should get credit though.. like youre always saying that golden state wasnt really an underdog because they werent healthy before the playoffs and then got healthy.. but the main reason Mavs lost wasnt because of that, it was because Dirk played like shit.

Dirk has beaten up on plenty of teams better than 07 GS.. so its not like he couldnt play better than he did.

I've never argued that the 07 Warriors wasn't an upset. I argued that if there are no upsets...than that wasn't an upset.

I don't really care who you want to give credit to.

Mavs won the title. Dirk was clearly the best player on team. Mavs were huge underdogs to win title and huge underdogs to beat the Lakers and Heat as road dogs.

You disperse the credit however you like. I don't care.

[Gwin631]

Wade shouldn't have been expected to play at an '06 level with the team he had. He certainly played well enough to win a championship, something like 27ppg on 55% shooting. It was LeBron who cost that team a chance at a title, not Wade.

Maybe, but wade Came of two of his best years in 09 and 10 individually and he allowed JT to take off in the Finals as well, I also think LeBron wanted Wade to takeover, so he did. LeBron should have done more but DWade was not perfect either.

[Electric Slide]

Not sure how Kobe's 2006 RS is overrated at all.

Kobe's 2007 overall season is probably his most overrated season. People say it was his best season when it was just an inferior version of his 06 season. He didn't play well in the 2007 playoffs either.