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Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
Originally Posted by 97 bulls
As far as talent, Barkley is top 5. His work ethic held him back. He joked routinely about hiw bad he was at defense. He was a cancer, had run-ins with the law, and didnt take the game seriously.
He ranks highly due to great scoring stats and an MVP. But I honestly see no difference between his career as a great scorer and rebounder, and Dennis Rodman who was a great defender and rebounder.
Wouldn't that be like comparing James Harden and Tony Allen?
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Game. Set. Match.
Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
Watch this video, please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhJ3w-RqJH0
It's not just impressive because he drops 27 in the 1st Q and 56 in the game, but it also showcases all his talents.
Scoring from the low block.
Scoring from the high block.
Hitting midrange jumpers.
Hitting 3 pointers.
Hitting turn around jumpers.
Rebound putbacks.
Slashing to the rim.
Scoring in the open court.
Getting to the FT line.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
Originally Posted by iamgine
Wouldn't that be like comparing James Harden and Tony Allen?
How? James Harden can score in many ways. Tony Allen is a great man defender.
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Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
swap barkley with bron,
barkley would win 5 already
and bron would ended up ringless and MVPless
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Reign of Error
Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
His individual dominance and overall level of play is so obviously comparable to that of the all-time greatest that he's forgiven for his relative lack of accomplishments.
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Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
Because he was pretty good.
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Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
Originally Posted by 97 bulls
How? James Harden can score in many ways. Tony Allen is a great man defender.
I mean Barkley vs Rodman is like Harden vs T.Allen
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Local High School Star
Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
At his prime, Barkley seemed to be as dominant in the post as Shaq. He could not be guarded one on one.
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The Wizard
Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
Barkley was probably the most efficient player at scoring inside the arc. He was like Lebron insofar as he was bigger than anyone his size and quicker than anyone bigger than him. He could shoot out to 3, run the break, catch it in the low post and score, beat people off the dribble facing up or backing people down. very versatile
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Good High School Starter
Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
Because he had the 'it' factor that great players have, and it's not measured by stats, although forum geeks certainly love to try.
Kobe has x rings, LeBron averages x assists etc etc.
There are some things that can't be measured. You watch someone's career and you just know. Jordan is the prime example, he's the GOAT regardless of how many rings he has.
To watch the NBA during the Jordan era SUCKED because you knew he'd always win. And that's not something that can be measured, it's just something you knew to be true. LeBron's a great player but it's not even close. Not everything is about FG% or PPG.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
Originally Posted by iamgine
I mean Barkley vs Rodman is like Harden vs T.Allen
How? Allen does one thing great on the court. That is defend the perimeter. Rodman defended the perimeter, post, rebounds, draws chargers all at a high level.
Harden scores in many ways. Penetration, the three ball, he can run the point. A better comparison for.Tony Allen would be Kyle Korver.
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Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
Originally Posted by 97 bulls
How? Allen does one thing great on the court. That is defend the perimeter. Rodman defended the perimeter, post, rebounds, draws chargers all at a high level.
Harden scores in many ways. Penetration, the three ball, he can run the point. A better comparison for.Tony Allen would be Kyle Korver.
I mean Barkley vs Rodman is like Harden vs T.Allen. Barkley was a great scorer like Harden while Rodman was a great defender like Allen. Rodman wasn't more valuable defensively than defensive anchors like Tim Duncan or Ben Wallace, just like Tony Allen.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
Originally Posted by iamgine
I mean Barkley vs Rodman is like Harden vs T.Allen. Barkley was a great scorer like Harden while Rodman was a great defender like Allen. Rodman wasn't more valuable defensively than defensive anchors like Tim Duncan or Ben Wallace, just like Tony Allen.
Well. This is where we disagree. Ben Wallace didnt really defend the opp best post player. Rasheed Wallace did. Ben, did help by blocking shots. But thats no different than Rodman drawing charges.
I do agree about Duncan.
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Heat Nation
Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
He basically had a career on par with Iverson's, yet he's compared to David Robinson, Dwyane Wade, Karl Malone etc. lol
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Curry: 0x Finals MVP
Re: Why is Charles Barkley ranked so highly?
Originally Posted by Papaya Petee
He basically had a career on par with Iverson's, yet he's compared to David Robinson, Dwyane Wade, Karl Malone etc. lol
This.
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