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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23
    No

    LeBron only quit in the 2011 NBA Finals. LBJ has the same numbers of playoffs game winners as Kobe in the postseason.
    2010 game 5 vs Boston as well, and the last min. of game 6

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v5qIApQK0c




    And those game winning layups F*ck the East.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqpF1COUzoU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtf7kQZC6gw

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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic 32
    2010 game 5 vs Boston as well, and the last min. of game 6

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v5qIApQK0c




    And those game winning layups F*ck the East.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqpF1COUzoU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtf7kQZC6gw
    Game Winners I dont care how you get them are Game Winners.

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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    He almost won against a stacked Suns with a horrible team, gotta give props.

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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23
    He quit in Game 7 vs. the Phoenix Suns.
    What's worse? If you can't hit a shot or if you don't want to?

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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    Quote Originally Posted by zoom17
    Game Winners I dont care how you get them are Game Winners.
    the last one is a travel as well.

    And I care.

    Those 00-10 first round series in the east were pathetic at times.

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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    It's difficult to overcome horrible defensive and rebounding teams. If the teams were just offensively deficient then Kobe would have taken them further but they couldn't defend or rebound.

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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    Quote Originally Posted by Segatti
    He almost won against a stacked Suns with a horrible team, gotta give props.
    Exactly, people have selective memory when it comes to Kobe.
    They look at that Suns series as a means to belittle Kobe's career as a leader, while in fact, it was a big highlight of his competitiveness.

    As you recall, most expers (over half) were predicting Phoenix to sweep LA. A few had Phoenix in 5 and I think 2/3 had Phoenix in 6 or 7 games. No one gave LA a chance.

    Kobe was absolutely brilliant in that series; in the 1st game he kept his team in it till the 4th then completely elevated the entire's team morale by posterizing Nash late in the 4th quarter to secure a win.

    He was brilliant in game 6 as well, literally carrying the scoring punch all game long. LA had a 3 point lead with seconds remaining but of course his teammates couldn't secure a defensive rebound or have a man on Tim Thomas.

    In game 7, Kobe came out guns blazzing. Making rediculous shots all 1st half, yet LA were always behind by double digits. LA kept it competitive because people were contributing; but NO ONE in game 7 was doing anything in either the 1st or 2nd half. Kobe tried to get their confidence up in the 2nd half by sharing the ball but no one was stepping up. Phoenix were the overwhelming favourites.

    Also, in game 5 when Kobe hit that game winner...he also hit a very difficult floating shot to tie the game and force overtime.

    The guy was BRILLIANT in that series.
    28 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 5.1 APG, 50 FG%, 40 3PT%, 45 MPG, 59% TS% & 55% eFG.
    What else did you want the dude to do??

    The rest of his team shot like 30% from the field in game 7.

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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    Quote Originally Posted by IGOTGAME
    It's difficult to overcome horrible defensive and rebounding teams. If the teams were just offensively deficient then Kobe would have taken them further but they couldn't defend or rebound.
    BINGO, Iverson/LeBron had similar talent that Kobe had in 06/07 but they had teammates that could actually defend and rebound very effectively while allowing Iverson/LeBron to control the flow offensively.

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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    Quote Originally Posted by rhythmic †hesis
    BINGO, Iverson/LeBron had similar talent that Kobe had in 06/07 but they had teammates that could actually defend and rebound very effectively while allowing Iverson/LeBron to control the flow offensively.


    Lakers and Cavs record when they held their opponents under 100 points...

    2004-05 = 27-7! (34 total) (Overall record 34-48)
    2005-06 = 39-18 (57 total) (Overall record 45-37)
    2006-07 = 23-12 (35 total) (Overall record 42-40)

    Total Games = 126
    Average games per season = 42
    Winning percentage in those games = 71% (89-37)

    Cavs 2007-10.

    2006-07 = 45-20 (65 total) (Overall record 50-32)
    2007-08 = 33-15 (48 total) (Overall record 45-37)
    2008-09 = 57-7 (64 total) (Overall record 66-16)
    2009-10 = 48-10 (58 total) (Overall record 61-21)

    Total Games = 235
    Average games per season = 59
    Winning percentage in those games = 78%

    In other words...give Kobe a great defensive team and the eastern conference, and you get the same amount of "succes".

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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    Quote Originally Posted by IGOTGAME
    It's difficult to overcome horrible defensive and rebounding teams. If the teams were just offensively deficient then Kobe would have taken them further but they couldn't defend or rebound.
    Smush and Kwame does not have the IQs to read the other team offense. Kwame is a good on ball defender but he was lost on picks and screens. Smush had a quick hands but he gambles a lot and often can not stay in fron of his man. Luke was smart just don't have the physical tools. Kobe and Odom just can't cover those deficiencies. It's too big of a room for margin of errors.

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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    Holy shit, Magic just ethered everyone.

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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    [QUOTE=rhythmic

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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    Quote Originally Posted by zoom17
    Magic didnt ethered anybody he just a clueless kobe stan like you

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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic 32
    lol wtf is this

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    Default Re: Inconvenient truth: 2005-2007 Lakers...7th seeds twice, missed once

    Quote Originally Posted by zoom17
    Magic didnt ethered anybody he just a clueless kobe stan like you
    Still waiting to hear you contribute anything that is of any substance to this discussion?

    Do you need me to skull fuck you, so that your lone brain cell ignites?

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