Hakeem or Kobe?

[kobeef24]

Kobe. But if you asked me who I'd draft first I'd pick Hakeem.

This.

[Horde of Temujin]

Hakeem.

He destroyed prime DRob, Ewing and Shaq

[OldSkoolball#52]

Kobe is higher on the list.

Hakeem has gotten a big bump in retirement. During his time he was considered equal to Ewing and Robinson, and no one would say either is better than Kobe.

Robinson is easily >>> Kobe.

Oh, wait, wait.

"rings ddeuuuhhh he won da ringssssszzzerers"

You don't know basketball.

Frankly, I find it strange you'd even spend your time on a message board discussing it. You clearly just watch the ESPN televitz, memorize their doctrine which revolves around aggrandizing explosive swing players in order to draw ratings, you come here and mindlessly repeat it... I guess I don't see what the point is. Theres maybe 5% of this board who thinks about the game for themselves and enjoys coming here to exchange ideas with others. The rest of you (and you specifically) are just pea-brained drones. I don't understand it. Why do you even bother??


Let me guess, you have Kobe >>>> Duncan too, right?


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But Fisher has 5 rings too, Kobe hasn't won anything without him! What a stupid way to judge and compare players!


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[AintNoSunshine]

troll or serious?

Anyway, Hakeem by far

[Fresh Kid]

kobe, plus hakeem got lucky in 94.

[Xiao Yao You]

Keem

[Killbot]

Dream

[kennethgriffin]

even if you cut kobes career in half and didnt count the 3 championships/all nba teams in his years with shaq. and only counted from 2005-2013. hes still done more than hakeem


kobe 2005-2013
2 championships
2 finals mvps
1 season mvp
8 first team all nba's
6 first team all defense's
9 time allstar starter


hakeem his whole life

2 championships
2 finals mvps
1 season mvp
6 first team all nba's
5 first team all defense's
8 time allstar starter


ETHER

[Jameerthefear]

The fact that Kobe has that many first team all defenses tells a lot about that award...

[kennethgriffin]

The fact that Kobe has that many first team all defenses tells a lot about that award...

michael jordan was the most loved, hyped, popular player ever and he missed all 1st, 2nd, 3rd team all nbas and both 1st, 2nd team all defenses in 2001-02, 2002-03

so i guess its not based on popularity or hype

they dont make mistakes

[9erempiree]

even if you cut kobes career in half and didnt count the 3 championships/all nba teams in his years with shaq. and only counted from 2005-2013. hes still done more than hakeem


kobe 2005-2013
2 championships
2 finals mvps
1 season mvp
8 first team all nba's
6 first team all defense's
9 time allstar starter


hakeem his whole life

2 championships
2 finals mvps
1 season mvp
6 first team all nba's
5 first team all defense's
8 time allstar starter


ETHER

This.

I remember you mentioning this and nobody has a rebuttal for this.

[kennethgriffin]

kobe makes 1st team all nba = "its cause of popularity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


jamaal mashburn makes 3rd team all nba over MICHAEL JORDAN.........." ummm.... wut"

[Harison]

Hakeem, he won both his rings as the main man and did it in a crazy dominant way. Kobe was great during but he wasn't even the best player on the roster during the first 3 and during the others he wasn't as dominant as Olajuwon.

+1. They are pretty close on the list (Hakeem 7th and Kobe 10th), but Dream's two-way dominance (easily rivaling the best performances of Jordan or Shaq) and steep uphill battle to championships makes it a fairly obvious choice.

[jstern]

Kobe is higher on the list.

Hakeem has gotten a big bump in retirement. During his time he was considered equal to Ewing and Robinson, and no one would say either is better than Kobe.

I love Ewing, but there was no question Hakeem was the best center in the league. Perhaps you were too young.

Hakeem is a better player than Kobe.

[kennethgriffin]

+1. They are pretty close on the list (Hakeem 7th and Kobe 10th), but Dream's two-way dominance (easily rivaling the best performances of Jordan or Shaq) and steep uphill battle to championships makes it a fairly obvious choice.

-1

idiots always use the "absolute best year who you'd draft first vs absolute best year who you'd draft first formula" when its kobe vs whoever

but only when its about kobe. cause its a matter of biased opinion and not fact.

they like to use that formula cause they could use practically anyone whom they like and say theyre better than kobe

but if you used this crap then you have to use to for everyone else.

and if it really was just about 1 or 2 seasons then jordan isnt even a top 5 player all time

you could literally argue elgin baylor, hakeem olajuwon, wilt chamberlain, shaquille o'neal and oscar robertson as the top 5 players ever


I WIN AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!