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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Originally Posted by deja vu
I'll grant you that Carmelo is better than Stockton was, but Grant Hill? Pre-injury, the guy was posting LeBron-like numbers with better rebounding and lesser scoring.
No he wasn't. He could barely drag the Pistons to the playoffs, while Carmelo dragged a 17 win Denver team the playoffs in his first year. He has scored 20+ and made the playoffs every year of his career. Only players that have done that recently are Bird and Jordan.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
I'm going with Nique. Not by a lot, they are very similar. Prime Hill btw is absolutely a better basketball player than Carmelo Anthony. Anyone insinuating otherwise never saw Hill, or is flat out a stan for Melo ... possibly even retarded.
How many playoff victories did prime hill won? did wilkins made the east finals?
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Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
No he wasn't. He could barely drag the Pistons to the playoffs, while Carmelo dragged a 17 win Denver team the playoffs in his first year. He has scored 20+ and made the playoffs every year of his career. Only players that have done that recently are Bird and Jordan.
Thank you.
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Coach
Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Originally Posted by IncarceratedBob
LeBron wouldn't be a top 6 player in the 90's
Jordan
Magic
Malone
Barkley
Shaq
Hakeem
Sorry.
Come on now ... Magic had 2x years in the 90's near his peak level of play before he retired. That's not enough to say he was one of the five best of that decade. LeBron, btw is better than Magic anyhow no matter how you slice it. I'm not going to sit here and say LeBron wouldn't be a top five player in the 90's. LeBron and Kobe would both be top ten players easily, in the 90's. Wade might've been as well. Cases can be made.
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Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Originally Posted by secund2nun
He was a much more complete player. His passing was a lot better, his rebounding was better and his defense was better.
Grant Hill had the potential to be better than anthony but thats it.
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Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
I'm going with Nique. Not by a lot, they are very similar. Prime Hill btw is absolutely a better basketball player than Carmelo Anthony. Anyone insinuating otherwise never saw Hill, or is flat out a stan for Melo ... possibly even retarded.
Do they exist?
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Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Is Melo better than:
Clyde Drexler
Gary Payton
Penny Hardaway
Shawn Kemp
Reggie Miller
Chris Mullin
Glen Rice
Kevin Johnson
Dikembe Mutombo
Chris Webber
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Form is temporary
Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Originally Posted by IncarceratedBob
LeBron wouldn't be a top 6 player in the 90's
Jordan
Magic
Malone
Barkley
Shaq
Hakeem
Sorry.
Man...I think LeBron is an overrated choker but I think he's top 5 in the 90s, just below MJ and Hakeem though. Haha.
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Come on now ... Magic had 2x years in the 90's near his peak level of play before he retired. That's not enough to say he was one of the five best of that decade. LeBron, btw is better than Magic anyhow no matter how you slice it. I'm not going to sit here and say LeBron wouldn't be a top five player in the 90's. LeBron and Kobe would both be top ten players easily, in the 90's. Wade might've been as well. Cases can be made.
It's hard to rank because they do differently things. Magic is the better team player and will probably contribute more to the team offense despite LeBron James being a point forward. Magic just runs the offense better. I think Magic is also bit more versatile than LBJ on offense. He is better at picking his spots and catch and shoot (tho defenders gambled too much at leaving him open), he is better in the post, and playmaking.
When it comes to individual stats, LeBron James is better. But in terms of controlling of the game, playmaking, Magic is greater imo. Magic impact could be just as good as LeBron is.
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Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Originally Posted by leMVP
Do they exist?
Does that scare you Lebron stan?
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Form is temporary
Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
No he wasn't. He could barely drag the Pistons to the playoffs, while Carmelo dragged a 17 win Denver team the playoffs in his first year. He has scored 20+ and made the playoffs every year of his career. Only players that have done that recently are Bird and Jordan.
So does it mean that Carmelo is better than LeBron? Because LeBron also failed to make it to the playoffs in his first season.
Carmelo is a great scorer, I'll give you that. Grant Hill was better in all other aspects, including rebounding, passing, and defense. Dude was a walking triple double machine. Then the injury happened.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Originally Posted by deja vu
So does it mean that Carmelo is better than LeBron? Because LeBron also failed to make it to the playoffs in his first season.
Carmelo is a great scorer, I'll give you that. Grant Hill was better in all other aspects, including rebounding, passing, and defense. Dude was a walking triple double machine. Then the injury happened.
His defense is crazy overrated. He also lacked fortitude, which is why he was never accepted in Detroit. He had a lot of potential, but like most Duke players, he never lived up to it. People's memory of him are about 100x better than he actually ever was. Maybe it's because most of this board was about 5 years old, and the hype was strong for him. Remember, he was pegged as the next Jordan, but Joe Dumars even way past his prime remained the heart and sole of the team till he retired.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Originally Posted by Fresh Kid
he had 40 and 50 point games, never missed playoffs, multiple all star, and led a team to the western finals for crying out loud.
So did lots of other high scoring small forwards who weren't talked about with the top players in the game.
Carmelo dragged a 17 win Denver team the playoffs in his first year.
He wasn 't the only addition to the 17 win team sorry.
Is Melo better than:
Clyde Drexler
Gary Payton
Penny Hardaway
Shawn Kemp
Reggie Miller
Chris Mullin
Glen Rice
Kevin Johnson
Dikembe Mutombo
Chris Webber
No. The guys to compare him with are Wilkens, Dantley, English, King, etc.
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Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Originally Posted by iamgine
Is Melo better than:
Clyde Drexler
Gary Payton
Penny Hardaway
Shawn Kemp
Reggie Miller
Chris Mullin
Glen Rice
Kevin Johnson
Dikembe Mutombo
Chris Webber
Not even going to bother going player by player but, you really saying Melo is worse than Glen Rice and Chris Mullin? They were gunners just like Melo who did not put up the scoring numbers he has, rebound nearly as well as him, and whose teams did not have nearly as much as success. What makes them better players?
At first glance Reggie Miller doesn't belong on a list of players better than Melo either. He may be one of the few players that can be argued to be more clutch than Melo, but the only other advantage he has is long-range shooting. Overall he was nowhere near as good of a player as Melo is.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Prime Dominique Wilkins vs. Prime Carmelo Anthony
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
He wasn 't the only addition to the 17 win team sorry.
He was the main one. The other guys that were added were not gonna carry a bad team to the playoffs without a prime go to scorer like Melo.
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