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    Another Kobe's scapegoat-to be


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    Quote Originally Posted by InspiredLebowski
    Yes, we will. You don't need cap room to extend your own rookie anyway.
    Section 43, titled What is Restricted Free agency

    As with any contract offer, a team must have enough room -- either cap room or room provided by an exception -- for the offer sheet. They must also maintain sufficient room while the offer sheet is outstanding -- e.g., they can't sign a restricted free agent to an offer sheet, and then use up all their cap room by signing another free agent during the three-day waiting period.

    Likewise, the player's prior team cannot match an offer sheet that is greater than their room. They must have enough room -- again, either cap room or a satisfactory exception -- at the time they are given notice that the player has signed an offer sheet, and at all times until matching. They cannot make moves to create sufficient room after receiving an offer sheet.



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    good thing for him Indy won't give him the chance.

    Worst case scenario is the Lakers sign him to a max offer sheet, and Indy takes all but 2 minutes to match. Done and Done son.

    This dude is on his way.

    Best case is Indy locks him up before the start of the season coming up. Take all the bullshit out of it from the jump

    He is going to be in Indy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daily
    Section 43, titled What is Restricted Free agency

    As with any contract offer, a team must have enough room -- either cap room or room provided by an exception -- for the offer sheet. They must also maintain sufficient room while the offer sheet is outstanding -- e.g., they can't sign a restricted free agent to an offer sheet, and then use up all their cap room by signing another free agent during the three-day waiting period.

    Likewise, the player's prior team cannot match an offer sheet that is greater than their room. They must have enough room -- again, either cap room or a satisfactory exception -- at the time they are given notice that the player has signed an offer sheet, and at all times until matching. They cannot make moves to create sufficient room after receiving an offer sheet.



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    And the exception they will use is they will have Paul's Bird Rights, they can go over the cap to sign their own guy even if they have 20billion already in committed salary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crown&Coke
    And the exception they will use is they will have Paul's Bird Rights, they can go over the cap to sign their own guy even if they have 20billion already in committed salary
    Let em dream I guess.

    Bird was just on local radio and said they'll match anything (no shit) if he goes to market.

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    Paul George *****! Lakeshow!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thabisyo
    he should get another fVcken Idol. who the F idolizes kobe. what the F has he done
    dam... you must really hate Kobe. Did he rape and pillage your village?

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    Pacers say "It's easy to match any offer for Paul George" and that's the end of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crown&Coke
    And the exception they will use is they will have Paul's Bird Rights, they can go over the cap to sign their own guy even if they have 20billion already in committed salary
    Wrong kind of exception, that was a reference to a trade exception.

    No bird rights in play coming off of a rookie contract.

    Besides just outbidding the Pacers which is easily done because of their limited cap room next summer the Lakers could drop a poison pill in the contract by structuring the offer in such a way the Pacers have no way to match the contract without violating the CBA ala Houston Rockets for Asik and Lin.

    This is seriously doable for the Lakers should they want to go down that road and looking at the Pacers cap space next summer vs the Lakers the only thing that keeps George in Indiana is loyalty

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    Quote Originally Posted by daily
    Wrong kind of exception, that was a reference to a trade exception.

    No bird rights in play coming off of a rookie contract.

    Besides just outbidding the Pacers which is easily done because of their limited cap room next summer the Lakers could drop a poison pill in the contract by structuring the offer in such a way the Pacers have no way to match the contract without violating the CBA ala Houston Rockets for Asik and Lin.

    This is seriously doable for the Lakers should they want to go down that road and looking at the Pacers cap space next summer vs the Lakers the only thing that keeps George in Indiana is loyalty
    You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Yes Bird Rights matter. You're a Lakers fan right? How have the Lakers ever extended one of their rookies if they needed cap space to do it? How'd they extend Bynum for 12 mil a year or whatever? The Lin and Asik deals are not poison pill contracts, they're Arenas Provision contracts and George would not have a contract structured in such a way.

    Seriously, you don't know what you're talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by longtime lurker
    Pacers say "It's easy to match any offer for Paul George" and that's the end of that.
    That's the old CBA the new one is structured in a way that that's not always possible. Players wanted more freedom of movement for guys coming off of their rookie contracts so they took away the ability for teams to "match any offer".

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    Quote Originally Posted by daily
    That's the old CBA the new one is structured in a way that that's not always possible. Players wanted more freedom of movement for guys coming off of their rookie contracts so they took away the ability for teams to "match any offer".
    Shut up. You have NO clue what you're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daily
    Wrong kind of exception, that was a reference to a trade exception.

    No bird rights in play coming off of a rookie contract.

    Besides just outbidding the Pacers which is easily done because of their limited cap room next summer the Lakers could drop a poison pill in the contract by structuring the offer in such a way the Pacers have no way to match the contract without violating the CBA ala Houston Rockets for Asik and Lin.

    This is seriously doable for the Lakers should they want to go down that road and looking at the Pacers cap space next summer vs the Lakers the only thing that keeps George in Indiana is loyalty
    IL is completely right...you're delusional AND completely wrong. Even if LA made the contract anything like Asik/Lin, Indiana would match in a heartbeat. He's getting the max end of story, matched by Indiana if he even bothers to go to another team to do it.

    lol @ outbidding someone who has the rights to the RFA and cap room doesn't matter a lick.

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    I say 90% chance Paul George comes to the Lakers. Lets he real, who can resist the opportunity to play with the legendary Kobe Bryant? Exactly, Paul George will be a Laker next season and Kobe will mold him into a superstar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daily
    Section 43, titled What is Restricted Free agency

    As with any contract offer, a team must have enough room -- either cap room or room provided by an exception -- for the offer sheet. They must also maintain sufficient room while the offer sheet is outstanding -- e.g., they can't sign a restricted free agent to an offer sheet, and then use up all their cap room by signing another free agent during the three-day waiting period.

    Likewise, the player's prior team cannot match an offer sheet that is greater than their room. They must have enough room -- again, either cap room or a satisfactory exception -- at the time they are given notice that the player has signed an offer sheet, and at all times until matching. They cannot make moves to create sufficient room after receiving an offer sheet.



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    Sorry man but your wrong. A team gets a Bird's Right Exception for any player whose been with the team for 3 or more consecutive years. Check it out >>>> http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25

    25. What are salary cap exceptions?

    The basic rule of the NBA's salary cap is that a team can't sign a player or make a trade that leaves the team's team salary above the cap, unless the team is using an exception. In a system with a soft cap, exceptions are the mechanisms that allow teams to function while above the cap. Some exceptions are available only for making trades, and are described in detail starting in question number 80. The exceptions available for signing players are as follows1:

    LARRY BIRD EXCEPTION -- This exception allows teams to exceed the cap in order to re-sign their own free agents, up to the player's maximum salary. Teams are said to have "Bird rights" to players who qualify. To qualify for this exception a player essentially must play for three seasons without clearing waivers or changing teams as a free agent, however there are nuances to this rule, which are explained in question number 32. This means a player can qualify by playing under three consecutive one-year contracts, a single contract of at least three years, or any equivalent combination. It also means that when a player is traded, his Bird rights are traded with him, and his new team can use the Larry Bird exception to re-sign him. These contracts can be up to five years in length, with raises up to 7.5% of the salary in the first season of the contract. Players who qualify for this exception are called "Qualifying Veteran Free Agents" in the CBA, and this exception is formally a component of the Veteran Free Agent exception.

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