Was Jordan's Finals Competition Overrated?

[tazb]

Every team Jordan played was watered down. The Bulls were the only team that had 2 MVP caliber players.

The only actual competition was Shaqs Magic. In 1995 the Magic absolutely ****ed them. Bulls beat them in 96 since they added another elite hall of fame player in Dennis Rodman while the Magic didn't have Horace Grant. Bulls only win when they have more hall of famers.

Jordan ddnt't win 6 rings because of his individual greatness. He won them because his team had the most overwhelming talent in the league and noone was close.

LeBrons championships are much more impressive than any of Jordans. LeBron has to do everything at an elite level for Miami to win playoff games. Jordan just has to worry about scoring.

Agreed with all of this, especially the bolded part.

[deja vu]

Every team Jordan played was watered down. The Bulls were the only team that had 2 MVP caliber players.

2 MVP caliber players? LMAO. I didn't realize that Pippen and Rodman were MVP caliber players.

The only actual competition was Shaqs Magic. In 1995 the Magic absolutely ****ed them. Bulls beat them in 96 since they added another elite hall of fame player in Dennis Rodman while the Magic didn't have Horace Grant. Bulls only win when they have more hall of famers.

Magic beat them because they lost Horace Grant, and MJ returned late in the season. The Bulls SWEPT them the very next season when they replaced Grant with another defensive big man.

Jordan didnt't win 6 rings because of his individual greatness. He won them because his team had the most overwhelming talent in the league and noone was close.

LOL sounds like the current Miami Heat.

LeBrons championships are much more impressive than any of Jordans. LeBron has to do everything at an elite level for Miami to win playoff games. Jordan just has to worry about scoring.

Yeah because Jordan was not a Defensive Player of the Year.

[GrapeApe]

This topic is pretty irrelevant. You can't control who you play. All you can do is beat the team you're facing and Jordan's Bulls were 6/6 in that department.

[plowking]

Bron would've never even made it to the Finals and I'd be surprised if he made it past the first round in some instances as well.

FACT

Interesting seeing as Lebron has never lost in the first round.

[Zedja]

Interesting seeing as Lebron has never lost in the first round.

Yknow whats interesting? 6/6 in the Finals. What's Lebron's record?

[Dengness9]

Tony and Sillk insecure homo's.

The hate you f a gs receive is awesome.

Bball newbies.

[Magic 32]

Interesting seeing as Lebron has never lost in the first round.

[andgar923]

Interesting seeing as Lebron has never lost in the first round.

He never faced some of the teams that MJ faced either.

[Rose'sACL]

stans are just making me dislike lebron more and more.

by that logic everyone should hate Jordan. i like Jordan and think of him as the GOAT even though most of his fans are probably the worst as most of them didn't even watch him. Most lebron fans have at least watched him sometime.

He never faced some of the teams that MJ faced either.

That also means MJ was even worse as he couldn't get his team to better seeding.
Aren't you 60 and have watched every game since 1970s? why are you debating with us 6 yr olds?

[TonyMontana]

2 MVP caliber players? LMAO. I didn't realize that Pippen and Rodman were MVP caliber players.


Magic beat them because they lost Horace Grant, and MJ returned late in the season. The Bulls SWEPT them the very next season when they replaced Grant with another defensive big man.


LOL sounds like the current Miami Heat.


Yeah because Jordan was not a Defensive Player of the Year.

The Bulls went 55-27 in 1994 when Jordan retired for the first time. They were 57-25 the year before with Jordan. The team only loss 2 less games when they replaced Jordan with a CBA player.

Pippen played 72 games that year. The team went 51-21 with him and 4-6 without him. He finished 3rd in MVP voting that year and may have won it if he didn't miss 10 games.

Pippen was an MVP caliber player. When you see that Jordan also had Phil Jackson, the GOAT head coach and either Dennis Rodman(by far the best rebounder in the history of the NBA and a guy that could defend anyone from Magic to Shaq) or dominant defensive big Horace Grant you see no other star had the consistently dominant cast Jordan had. They won ****ing 55 games replacing him with a CBA player and were a bad call away from a probable Finals berth. 3 Bulls made the allstar team that year, all having career years without Jordan.

Without All NBA 1st Team bigman Horace Grant Jordan was exposed vs the Magic. Can you imagine if Jordan had to carry a team whose weakness is their interior to the Finals? let alone championships the way LeBron has.

LeBron has won MULTIPLE CHAMPIONSHIPS without a dominant rim protector/rebounder on his team. LeBron has to go down low in the playoffs to keep his team competitive.

Could Jordan do that?

Nope hes too small. We saw him put every ****ing inch of Shaqs dick in his mouth in 1995. The Bulls had to wait til they got the best rebounder in NBA History combined with Horace Grant(ORLs best post defender/rebounder) missing the entire series to beat them.

Chicago nearly doubled Orlandos rebounding in 1996, thats why they won. Dennis Rodman, not Jordan.

When Jordan won his rings his only priority was to score. Pippen was the teams facilitator, Pippen was the guy who would exert his energy playing the other teams top perimeter threat. Rodman/Grant was the one who'd have to take the other teams top post player, Rodman/Grant was the one who had to take the rebounding burden.

LeBron has to do ALL of that for his Heat to win. All at an elite level. Time for you to take Jordans dick out of your mouth and open your eyes.

[TonyMontana]

Yknow whats interesting? 6/6 in the Finals. What's Lebron's record?

Jordan: 1-9 playoff record without Pippen

[longtime lurker]

Right now this has got to be one of the weakest eras for the NBA.

[plowking]

He never faced some of the teams that MJ faced either.

I don't get your argument.

You're saying he'd lose in the first round, then you're saying he never faced good enough teams to lose in the first round... Now you're saying he should lose in the regular season to play harder teams in the first round?

Jordan was making the playoffs with 38 wins... Shit, they made it with 30 wins in his second year.

Yknow whats interesting? 6/6 in the Finals. What's Lebron's record?

What has this got to do with my comment? You have a computer, use google to find Lebron's record if you wish.

[Magic 32]

Can't believe Lebron stans think they can get away with this.

lol

Consistently beating .500 teams in the first round is better than not choking in the finals?

[Young X]

When Jordan won his rings his only priority was to score. Pippen was the teams facilitator, Pippen was the guy who would exert his energy playing the other teams top perimeter threat. Rodman/Grant was the one who'd have to take the other teams top post player, Rodman/Grant was the one who had to take the rebounding burden.

^Myth.

Jordan led his team in:

Scoring
Assists
#2 in Rebounding (0.5 less than Rodman)
Steals
Blocks

...in the '97 playoffs.

When will you faqqots learn?