LeBron's legacy in the line

[lilgodfather1]

I see it as 1-4.. 1 from 4 attempts. Like a boxscore..

Fair enough. Whoever is in charge of this stuff needs to pull his head out of Brad Pitt's ass, and tell us the universal way.

[dh144498]

It definitely is. Having a 1/4 Finals record in his resume is not gonna look good. Top 50 discussion indeed, but not top 10.

[ReturnofJPR]

I've been saying all year long...

LeBron won't sniff Top 10...ever. He needs a 3-peat to do so.

Michael Jordan
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlain
Kareem Abdul Jabaar
Oscar Robertson
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O'Neal

[dh144498]

I've been saying all year long...

LeBron won't sniff Top 10...ever. He needs a 3-peat to do so.

Michael Jordan
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlain
Kareem Abdul Jabaar
Oscar Robertson
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O'Neal

lebron stans won't like this.

[Ne 1]

Doesn't Jerry West have a 1-9 Finals record? He's considered to be a top 15 player. I don't see how Lebron can to any worse than that.

True, but you have to look at other circumstances. Jerry West lost to Bill Russell's Celtics in the Finals 6 times, Russell won 11 rings in 13 years and the only time Russell ever lost in the Finals was the 1958 series against St. Louis when he went down with a severe ankle injury in Game 3. The other Finals series he lost? The Lakers probably should've beat the Knicks the first time in '70, and you could possibly argue the second time in '73. He won against the Knicks in '72 of course though. Also take into account that the '70s was a decade of parity with 8 different championship teams and nobody won back-to-back titles.


As far as LeBron, I give him somewhat of a pass for losing the 2007 Finals, I don't think anybody expected the Cavs to beat the Spurs, but the thing is that he averaged 22/7/7, but he shot 35% from the field, 20% on 3's and 69% from the line while averaging 6 turnovers per game and on 23 shots per game. That's horrendous for a player of James' caliber especially considering the fact that his team was swept. That series was so far below what you expect from LeBron. We all know about 2011, Miami was heavily favored to win and LeBron was so bad that he actually cost his team the championship. It's not just like he played sub-par or something...he was so bad that people, to this day, still can't figure it out. He wasn't playing injured. It was just him going ghost on both ends of the floor. It looked like he just curled up, went into an shell and shut it down after Wade yelled at him in game 3. If he loses again this year, it won't be a good look. Especially if he performs underwhelmingly and continues to play passive and unassertive like he did in the 4th quarter last night. LeBron is the MVP of the league, 28 years old and if a 37 year old, 16th year in the league Duncan continues to have more impact on games than him, it's not a good look and that's what will cause the 1/4 Finals talk to be brought up when compared to the top tier greats.

Also with that said, Jerry West isn't compared to the likes of Jordan/Bird/Kobe/Magic like LeBron has been.

[ReturnofJPR]

lebron stans won't like this.

That's why nobody likes the cHEAT! They think they can buy a ring, the only one they have has an *. The only reason they are holding up 1 in their team photo is because that's the only chip they'll get. And it was a shortened season, 82 game grinds speak for themselves.



See?

They all have 1 finger up because that's the only chip they'll ever get.

Miami, LeBron, Wade, Bosh, etc. these clowns walk around like they are Magic's Lakers or Bird's Celtics. Bron is a silverspoon superstar. He's never earned anything. He's just been given praise and attention because the league and the media had to fill the mammoth hole left when MJ left...

[beastee]

I've been saying all year long...

LeBron won't sniff Top 10...ever. He needs a 3-peat to do so.

Michael Jordan
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlain
Kareem Abdul Jabaar
Oscar Robertson
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O'Neal

That list is basically perfect. But man...Larry Bird and Lebron are 10a and 10b for me.

[miles berg]

Kobe & LeBron are 10a & 10b.

[dh144498]

Kobe & LeBron are 10a & 10b.

[ReturnofJPR]

Kobe & LeBron are 10a & 10b.

LeBum only has 1 ring and it's like half of a ring because of the * season. That's not enough to be amongst the All Time Greats, as far as Top 10 goes.

[game3524]

Yes, it will hurt his legacy.

1-4 in the Finals is just not going to cut it. MJ is 6-0 in the Finals, Kobe 5-2, Duncan 4-0 etc. It is really hard to put him in the top ten with a potential 1-4 record.

[Vienceslav]

I've been saying all year long...

LeBron won't sniff Top 10...ever. He needs a 3-peat to do so.

Michael Jordan
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlain
Kareem Abdul Jabaar
Oscar Robertson
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O'Neal

I don't know how I feel about Robertson in top 10 and Hakeem not in top 10.
I know the list becomes very center heavy if you put Hakeem on, but the position is just that important.

[kaiteng]

He still has a lot of times to collect some more.

[HardwoodLegend]

Yes, it will hurt his legacy.

1-4 in the Finals is just not going to cut it. MJ is 6-0 in the Finals, Kobe 5-2, Duncan 4-0 etc. It is really hard to put him in the top ten with a potential 1-4 record.

It will be 1-3 if you're doing it record-wise.

The 1/4 is percentage-wise.

[HardwoodLegend]

I see it as 1-4.. 1 from 4 attempts. Like a boxscore..

If you're going to use a hyphen, it has to be record-wise making it 1-3.

That's just needlessly confusing and misleading when talking about Finals, because it's almost always discussed in terms of record not percentages. If you want to be original and different, make it 1/4.