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Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
Originally Posted by maybeshewill13
No one cares what you think.
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WayOfWade
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Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
It depends on how you look at it. Technically, dribbling on your first step is a gather which Wade did, and you are alotted two steps after the gather, which Wade did. But his gather took so long, it may very well be considered his pivot foot. Both sides have merit.
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Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
Originally Posted by 3LiftHeatCurse
No, because the ****ing NBA Rules say NOTHING of the time inbetween each step. There is no time interval. Clearly you can see Wade's body going backwards to go into his step back move. The foot may have got off the ground a little delayed than you are used to, but it still counts as his two-count rhythm after collecting the ball. The rules do not specify anything about time intervals and are specific as to when these steps actually occur. They are events (such as one foot landing, 2nd foot landing, not time intervals.)
NBA RULES :
Section XIV-Traveling
a. A player who receives the ball while standing still may pivot, using either foot as the pivot foot.
b. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion of a dribble, may use a two-count rhythm in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball.
The first count occurs:
(1) As he receives the ball, if either foot is touching the floor at the time he receives it.
(2) As the foot touches the floor, or as both feet touch the floor simultane- ously after he receives the ball, if both feet are off the floor when he receives it.
The second occurs:
(1) After the count of one when either foot touches the floor, or both feet touch the floor simultaneously.
so by these rules it was a travel.
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Troll who tries to provoke you
Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
Originally Posted by 3LiftHeatCurse
What the F? Do you even read what you write.
EVERY player's feet are in the air when they do the two-count rhythm when going for a layup or dunk. Nobody has a foot on the floor at all times. It's physically impossible, you moron.
damb a%%
wade picked up his dribble!!!!!!!!!!!!! as usual. You can have both feet in air as long as you keep the dribble alive.
His dribble was DEAD!!
Jordan & Pippen were masters at hopping back as they kept their dribble alive all the time.
Wade is the most pathetic overrated ball handler with giant hands who cannot HARD dribble & keep his dribble alive.
he picks it up every 3 secs.
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How I feel in ur head
Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
Originally Posted by LBJMVP
so by these rules it was a travel.
guy's full retard man.
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Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
Originally Posted by WayOfWade
It depends on how you look at it. Technically, dribbling on your first step is a gather which Wade did, and you are alotted two steps after the gather, which Wade did. But his gather took so long, it may very well be considered his pivot foot. Both sides have merit.
this is what i did when i saw it...
i got up and pretended like i was about to take a normal step back jumpshot. and if you compare what you did to what wade did. he obviously travelled.
he took to long to step back which made his right foot his pivot foot. he then picked up the foot and moved it.
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Local High School Star
Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
Originally Posted by WayOfWade
It depends on how you look at it. Technically, dribbling on your first step is a gather which Wade did, and you are alotted two steps after the gather, which Wade did. But his gather took so long, it may very well be considered his pivot foot. Both sides have merit.
NBA rule says nothing about time between 1st and 2nd step. The rulebook simply states that the 2nd step is allowed after the 1st step, and it happens whenever the 2nd foot touches the ground.
That wasn't a travel. It was simply a slower step back, but still within rules.
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Knicks all da way
Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
Originally Posted by HardwoodLegend
It's funny that some are responding with "do you even play basketball?"
Steve Kerr has played more than all of you guys (at a professional, championship level mind you) and he said he wasn't even sure it was a travel when looking at the replay.
It wasn't.
when has steve kerr ever done a move like that? i dont even remember kerr ever dribbling the ball
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Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
Originally Posted by gengiskhan
damb a%%
wade picked up his dribble!!!!!!!!!!!!! as usual. You can have both feet in air as long as you keep the dribble alive.
His dribble was DEAD!!
Jordan & Pippen were masters at hopping back as they kept their dribble alive all the time.
Wade is the most pathetic overrated ball handler with giant hands who cannot HARD dribble & keep his dribble alive.
he picks it up every 3 secs.
Its a travel but
Pauk, stop discrediting wade to props your boy bron who once again did a stupid thing in crunch
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Local High School Star
Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
Originally Posted by gengiskhan
damb a%%
wade picked up his dribble!!!!!!!!!!!!! as usual. You can have both feet in air as long as you keep the dribble alive.
His dribble was DEAD!!
Jordan & Pippen were masters at hopping back as they kept their dribble alive all the time.
Wade is the most pathetic overrated ball handler with giant hands who cannot HARD dribble & keep his dribble alive.
he picks it up every 3 secs.
Look at Wade's body. HE NEVER CAME TO A STOP while doing the step back. Look at his upper body. He never "stopped", he simply executed the move a little slower than other players do. Doesn't mean it's a travel.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
And battier hit 3 on that sequence that would of closed gap to one..
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Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
Originally Posted by 3LiftHeatCurse
Look at Wade's body. HE NEVER CAME TO A STOP while doing the step back. Look at his upper body. He never "stopped", he simply executed the move a little slower than other players do. Doesn't mean it's a travel.
actually he did stop and then did a little hitch back.... his right foot was considered the pivot foot at that point and then he moved it. its a travel.
if this is the kind of foul you are basing a game off of and making threads about then that is pretty sad.
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Local High School Star
Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
Originally Posted by VIntageNOvel
Its a travel but
Pauk, stop discrediting wade to props your boy bron who once again did a stupid thing in crunch
What happens is he dribbles in, palms/cuffs the ball up to gather while VERY slowly stepping back to establish his LEFT foot as the picot, however, since he moved so slowly, it seems the refs decided that he had already chosen his right foot as his pivot, even though it very clearly was not the case.
The call can go either way but it is VERY HARD in that situation to call a travel.
The real issue is that in slow mo he seems to sort of "pump fake" his right foot for a second on the initial step in with his right, I think that is what made the refs so sure he was establishing that foot.
If he made that move without the slowness, that is not even glanced at.
As far as game deciding level calls go? That is a weak call. It's a VERY slow hesitation move but that is still not a definable travel. If he did that in the 2nd quarter no one would make a peep.
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Troll who tries to provoke you
Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
Originally Posted by LBJMVP
actually he did stop and then did a little hitch back.... his right foot was considered the pivot foot at that point and then he moved it. its a travel.
if this is the kind of foul you are basing a game off of and making threads about then that is pretty sad.
this.
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Re: Wade's "travel", this is not a travel.
Originally Posted by 3LiftHeatCurse
Wade is allowed two steps after collecting the ball.... but they called it a travel. What a disgrace the NBA makes the rigging so blatant.
What's worse, Shane Battier made the 3point shot.
Wade is allowed TWO steps after collecting the ball. It doesn't matter if his step back move is slower than you are used to. The NBA Rules do not say anything about how long you can take between each step. It only mentions your feet touching the ground. So your 1st foot touching the ground = 1st step, and then the second step occurs when your next foot touches the ground after the 1st one. It says nothing about "if you take too long, you travel"
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NBA RULES
Section XIV-Traveling
a. A player who receives the ball while standing still may pivot, using either foot as the pivot foot.
b. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion of a dribble, may use a two-count rhythm in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball.
The first count occurs:
(1) As he receives the ball, if either foot is touching the floor at the time he receives it.
(2) As the foot touches the floor, or as both feet touch the floor simultane- ously after he receives the ball, if both feet are off the floor when he receives it.
The second occurs:
(1) After the count of one when either foot touches the floor, or both feet touch the floor simultaneously.
The question is can you be slow about it?
If I dribble towards the basket, I am allowed two steps. If I took 20 seconds for those 2 steps, is that a travel or not?
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