Kobe will NEVER be better than MJ

[Rooster]

Fixed

Enlighten me with the other one please

[TonyMontana]

He was never a Top 10 GOAT to begin with.

when you factor in his efficiency, stats, individual accolades etc etc there is nothing there besides 5 rings

but rings are won by winning franchises with great management & great coaches.

Its not like Kobe turned warriors or magic franchise to championship calibre.

argument of kobe has 5 rings dont hold up at all when you play for NBA's best franchise ever which has 16 rings!

Kobe was great but not GOAT calibre.

Yeah good points considering his 5 rings were all because he played on the most stacked team.

He never faced adversity like LeBron in Game 6 vs Boston or even won a single series as an underdog like LeBron and the Heat upsetting the OKC Thunder.

Even when he got drafted by a Charlotte, he bitched his way to LA. When he was mad Shaq was getting the credit for LAs success he cried til he had his own team. When he couldn't win a single series as the man he cried to management and demanded to be traded because he just didn't have the talent to win a single playoff series on his own.

The guy is pathetic and has benefitted from stacked casts more than any other player in NBA History.

[willds09]

Lebron will NEVER be better than Kobe

[KyleKong]

[gengiskhan]

Lebron will NEVER be better than Kobe

4th MVP.

Best player since 2008 - present even in an era in which LAL franchise was gifted Kobe rings.

LBJ was still better.

[Rooster]

Yeah good points considering his 5 rings were all because he played on the most stacked team.

He never faced adversity like LeBron in Game 6 vs Boston or even won a single series as an underdog like LeBron and the Heat upsetting the OKC Thunder.

Even when he got drafted by a Charlotte, he bitched his way to LA. When he was mad Shaq was getting the credit for LAs success he cried til he had his own team. When he couldn't win a single series as the man he cried to management and demanded to be traded because he just didn't have the talent to win a single playoff series on his own.

The guy is pathetic and has benefitted from stacked casts more than any other player in NBA History.

Kobe never adversity?

You probably started watching when Lebron started playing.

Kobe has been there done that since Lebron is in high school.

[willds09]

4th MVP.

Best player since 2008 - present even in an era in which LAL franchise was gifted Kobe rings.

LBJ was still better.

kobe played in tha west for 17 years, won 5 rings, more all star mvps than lebron.
lebron played for tha east his whole career, 1 given ring.

[gengiskhan]

Kobe never adversity?

You probably started watching when Lebron started playing.

Kobe has been there done since Lebron is in high school.

Yes.

NEVER.

When kobe was starting to face ADVERSITY! he wanted to LEAVE LAL in 2007.

remember that!

LBJ never THREATENED to leave a CLE franchise that got him ZERO rings.

KOBE under adversity THREATENED to leave NBA"S BEST FRANCHISE EVER after getting 3 RINGS!

this is not the first adversity kobe was chickening out of.

2004 Kobe FAILED as well. Driving SHAQ out. Phil called him "UNCOACHABLE"

[willds09]

Yes.

NEVER.

When kobe was starting to face ADVERSITY! he wanted to LEAVE LAL in 2007.

remember that!

LBJ never THREATENED to leave a CLE franchise that got him ZERO rings.

KOBE under adversity THREATENED to leave NBA"S BEST FRANCHISE EVER after getting 3 RINGS!

this is not the first adversity kobe was chickening out of.

2004 Kobe FAILED as well. Driving SHAQ out. Phil called him "UNCOACHABLE"

but what happened?? kobe still stayed with tha lakers, and lebron quit and joined two superstars just to win a ring.

[gengiskhan]

kobe played in tha west for 17 years, won 5 rings, more all star mvps than lebron.
lebron played for tha east his whole career, 1 given ring.

all-star mvps.

3 rings without fmvp are NOT Gifts given.

1 ring with CLEAN MVP SWEEP is a Gift.

0 out of 5 rings has Season MVP SWEEP are NOT Gifts.


all-star mvps.


IQs must be checked before giving username & password on ISH.

[ripthekik]

LBJ never THREATENED to leave a CLE franchise that got him ZERO rings.

KOBE under adversity THREATENED to leave NBA"S BEST FRANCHISE EVER after getting 3 RINGS!

What lebron did was worst. He didn't threaten, he just left. What he did was the equivalent of a father just leaving his kid in the middle of the night without leaving a word behind.

What kobe did? It was a tactic to make the office make better moves. And guess what happened a few years after?
Using the same example, it would be Kobe telling the wife to get her shiiit together, then they continue on to be one big happy family.

Lebron's the guy that left, Kobe's the guy that continue to give chances, and pushes his own organization to make better moves instead of just leaving them.

Tell me again who's worst here?

[Rooster]

Yes.

NEVER.

When kobe was starting to face ADVERSITY! he wanted to LEAVE LAL in 2007.

remember that!

LBJ never THREATENED to leave a CLE franchise that got him ZERO rings.

KOBE under adversity THREATENED to leave NBA"S BEST FRANCHISE EVER after getting 3 RINGS!

this is not the first adversity kobe was chickening out of.

2004 Kobe FAILED as well. Driving SHAQ out. Phil called him "UNCOACHABLE"

Let me help you down the memory lane.

Game 5, other team has the momentum do or die

Down 14 game 7, other team has the momentum.

Big Fella fouled out, injured but won the game in OT

Other team was slight favorite with home court advantage and sweep them

Down 3-2, other team has all that momentum

Down 10 late in the 4th, again with another great team

Down 16, defending champ has the lead .



Etc Etc So many others

You probably did not see these games

Because you only know who won

But you don't know how the champions were made.

[KyleKong]

What lebron did was worst. He didn't threaten, he just left. What he did was the equivalent of a father just leaving his kid in the middle of the night without leaving a word behind.

[Rooster]

but what happened?? kobe still stayed with tha lakers, and lebron quit and joined two superstars just to win a ring.

Not only that, the UNCOACHABLE was coached again by the same guy.

Common sense

Whatever Kobe did

Must have been right after all

5 rings

[gengiskhan]

What lebron did was worst. He didn't threaten, he just left. What he did was the equivalent of a father just leaving his kid in the middle of the night without leaving a word behind.

What kobe did? It was a tactic to make the office make better moves. And guess what happened a few years after?
Using the same example, it would be Kobe telling the wife to get her shiiit together, then they continue on to be one big happy family.

Lebron's the guy that left, Kobe's the guy that continue to give chances, and pushes his own organization to make better moves instead of just leaving them.

Tell me again who's worst here?

What LBJ did was BEST.

CLE is EXACT OPPOSITE of LAL franchise.

That franchise was happy with LBJ collecting MVPs & making it a CASH COW!

Rings, championships dont mean anything to CLE.

LBJ forced that team to NBA Finals & that was the farthest it will ever get.

NO all-star in his peak prime yrs in right mind will ever play for CLE, its a DEAD city with nothing to do.

LBJ by walking out made the BEST CAREER DECISION.

The way he made the decision was wrong. I agree

now he is Establishing GOAT status.

If LBJ wins 3 ring HEAT with 3 MVPs, he'll LOCK Top 8 GOAT spot ahead of SHAQ.


Just imagine what his career would've been as CAV.