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#Treble
A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
Kobe:
* 2004-2005 | 34 - 48 record = missed the playoffs
* 2005-2006 | 45 - 37 record = lost in the first round
* 2006-2007 | 42 - 40 record = lost in the first round (after this season, Kobe publicly demanded to be traded)
LeBron:
* 2003-2004 | 35 - 47 record = missed the playoffs
* 2004-2005 | 42 - 40 record = missed the playoffs
* 2005-2006 | 50 - 32 record = Lost NBA Eastern Conference Semifinals
* 2006-2007 | 50 - 32 record = Lost NBA Finals
* 2007-2008 | 45 - 37 record = Lost NBA Eastern Conference Semifinals
* 2008-2009 | 66 - 16 record = Lost NBA Eastern Conference Finals
* 2009-2010 | 61 - 21 record = Lost NBA Eastern Conference Semifinals
Conclusion: Without superstar help (i.e., Shaq or Gasol+Bynum [aka Twin Towers]), Kobe's career is nothing compared to LeBron's (LBJ won multiple MVP awards, too). Not to mention Kobe had Phil Jackson as a coach for many many many years whereas LeBron had Mike Brown in CLE.
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Top 3 Family
Re: A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
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Big Sexy
Re: A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
When Shaq got traded to the Heat Kobe went crazy selfish trying to justify the trade, winning 2 scoring titles but getting knocked off of the playoffs in the first round twice.
Kobe really wasted two prime years of his career trying to make himself the GOAT.
But once Gasol came around in 08 and the Lakers start being successful again people just praised Kobe and not Gasol.
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i be killah swag
Re: A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
You can still have a good team without superstar help Lebron never had teams as bad the 05-07 Lakers.
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GIVEN NOT EARNED
Re: A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
East vs West?
Lebron gets to play raptors, bobcats, bucks etc 4 times a year. Not to mention the eastern playoffs is a joke. Even dwight was able to lead his team to the final from the east
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sahelanthropus
Re: A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
Shouldn't you include 07-08 for Kobe? He only had Gasol for half the year, and Bynum for 35 (started 25, out for the playoffs).
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
Originally Posted by ripthekik
East vs West?
Lebron gets to play raptors, bobcats, bucks etc 4 times a year. Not to mention the eastern playoffs is a joke. Even dwight was able to lead his team to the final from the east
2009 dwight would be the best player in the western conference this year. Rip, you are a bitter salty and retarded hoe
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Re: A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
Originally Posted by ripthekik
East vs West?
Lebron gets to play raptors, bobcats, bucks etc 4 times a year. Not to mention the eastern playoffs is a joke. Even dwight was able to lead his team to the final from the east
LeBron James splits vs East/West
Kobe Bryant splits vs East/West
Both of these boys putting up HIGHER scoring on BETTER efficiency vs West teams as opposed to East teams. But wait we're not done yet.
LeBron James record vs West: 25-5(.833)
LeBron James record vs East: 41-11(.788)
LeBron with an even better winning percent vs the West?! This can't be with that stacked conference! But wait we're not done yet.
Beat Knicks in 5 games
Beat Pacers in 6 games
Beat Celtics in 7 games
Beat Thunder in 5 games
The Wests VERY BEST was good enough to take the Heat as far as their first round fodder oppenent did.
Now hurry up and make your post that consists of smileys and a one liner so everyone on the site can see how inept you are to argue basketball.
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#Treble
Re: A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
Originally Posted by TonyMontana
LeBron James splits vs East/West
Kobe Bryant splits vs East/West
Both of these boys putting up HIGHER scoring on BETTER efficiency vs West teams as opposed to East teams. But wait we're not done yet.
LeBron James record vs West: 25-5(.833)
LeBron James record vs East: 41-11(.788)
LeBron with an even better winning percent vs the West?! This can't be with that stacked conference! But wait we're not done yet.
Beat Knicks in 5 games
Beat Pacers in 6 games
Beat Celtics in 7 games
Beat Thunder in 5 games
The Wests VERY BEST was good enough to take the Heat as far as their first round fodder oppenent did.
Now hurry up and make your post that consists of smileys and a one liner so everyone on the site can see how inept you are to argue basketball.
Damn, great post! I was about to type the same thing but thankfully hit 'Refresh' first and saw yours was better written!
Will rep when I can (I get "You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.").
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Top 3 Family
Re: A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
Originally Posted by TonyMontana
LeBron James splits vs East/West
Kobe Bryant splits vs East/West
Both of these boys putting up HIGHER scoring on BETTER efficiency vs West teams as opposed to East teams. But wait we're not done yet.
LeBron James record vs West: 25-5(.833)
LeBron James record vs East: 41-11(.788)
LeBron with an even better winning percent vs the West?! This can't be with that stacked conference! But wait we're not done yet.
Beat Knicks in 5 games
Beat Pacers in 6 games
Beat Celtics in 7 games
Beat Thunder in 5 games
The Wests VERY BEST was good enough to take the Heat as far as their first round fodder oppenent did.
Now hurry up and make your post that consists of smileys and a one liner so everyone on the site can see how inept you are to argue basketball.
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NBA All-star
Re: A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
ripthekik getting killed by some quality April 2013 posters these days.
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Re: A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
Originally Posted by TonyMontana
LeBron James splits vs East/West
Kobe Bryant splits vs East/West
Both of these boys putting up HIGHER scoring on BETTER efficiency vs West teams as opposed to East teams. But wait we're not done yet.
LeBron James record vs West: 25-5(.833)
LeBron James record vs East: 41-11(.788)
LeBron with an even better winning percent vs the West?! This can't be with that stacked conference! But wait we're not done yet.
Beat Knicks in 5 games
Beat Pacers in 6 games
Beat Celtics in 7 games
Beat Thunder in 5 games
The Wests VERY BEST was good enough to take the Heat as far as their first round fodder oppenent did.
Now hurry up and make your post that consists of smileys and a one liner so everyone on the site can see how inept you are to argue basketball.
Facts are Bean stans' worst enemies. Repped
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My city needs a team!
Re: A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
But but LeBron's team was built to compliment his skills, and they were playing in the east
Lakers just got scrubs for Kobe,
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Serious playground baller
Re: A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
The East is weak as fvck. You think the Heat would have survived in the West last year without Bosh for the second round? Hell nah, who you trying to fool with those cherry picked stats. They don't mean shit.
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sahelanthropus
Re: A Comparison of Kobe and LeBron's Careers Without Superstar Help
Originally Posted by fpliii
Shouldn't you include 07-08 for Kobe? He only had Gasol for half the year, and Bynum for 35 (started 25, out for the playoffs).
I'm not one to quote myself, but how does this qualify as superstar help?
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