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Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
so much wrong about this post.
First off, you made half of it up, you have no idea what Pat Riley did or didn't do, and there's more evidence pointing to the option that Bosh Wade & James colluded and had planned this out or at least thought of the idea of joining forces a long time ago, the way Wade & James set their contracts up to expire at the same time, Lebron changing his # to and then going to the only team in the league besides CHI that has #23 retired.
Secondly, Miami would have had to spend that extra cap space to fill out the rest of their roster after Wade & Bosh.
Third. Lebron could have manned up & stuck with his b2b 60+ win favorite for 2 years to make the finals team and recruited somebody to join HIS team.
Instead, Lebron chose to join somebody else's team, and the player he just so happened to choose to join had already won a title as the man of his team and was sporting a FMVP before Lebron had even reached the finals..
First, lets accept that James Wade and Bosh colluded. Still doesn't change the fact on the morning of his announcement Wade and Bosh were on the same team with enough cap space to sign yet another franchise player.
You say the Heat would have fill out their roster. There would be nothing stopping Riley from doing what New York did with Carmelo.
Sign Amare..."fill out the roster" and still sign/wait out for Melo.
Again, you're Lebron what exactly would you do?
By the way, this nonsense about contract expiring...did Amare, Joe Johnson, and Boozer collude too? They're contracts expired at the same time? The entire 2003 draft class signed the same contracts.
It had nothing to do with colluding. They were all drafted at the same time, under the same CBA rules, all franchise players. Of course they sighed the same types of deals. Any agent worth is salt is telling his client to sign the exact same contract.
Are all the NFL players drafted in the last year colluding as well? The class of 2011 all have similar contacts as well.
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Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
Everyone on here acting like the best players left play with lebron on the Heat: So far, neither Wade or Bosh have played anything like stars these playoffs. Ray Allen and Birdman are the ones stepping up their game... And that's I'm part from playing with lebron. Stop the nonsenee
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Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
Originally Posted by JtheEntertainer
Everyone on here acting like the best players left play with lebron on the Heat: So far, neither Wade or Bosh have played anything like stars these playoffs. Ray Allen and Birdman are the ones stepping up their game... And that's I'm part from playing with lebron. Stop the nonsenee
niguh they playing tha bucks, and tha bucks two superstars are not playing like superstars either
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Local High School Star
Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
This is so false. Dwight & Cp3's contracts don't expire until after THIS YEAR. Miami wouldn't have been able to save that much cap over 2 years. Miami would have had to spend their extra cap space to fill out the roster after signing Bosh & Wade.
It does not really matter when their contracts expire. The point is that Riley had enough room to sign another franchise player. Be it in summer of 2010, 2011, or 2012. There were a number of potential free agents in 2010 that Riley could have targeted that were set to become free agents in the upcoming years.
For two and three seasons BEFORE Lebron, NYC, CHI, MIA, and NJ didn't spend cap space. Did they not field teams prior to the summer of 2010?
What exactly stops the Heat, after signing Wade and Bosh from managing their cap space for a swing at Deron Williams?
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Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
Originally Posted by willds09
niguh they playing tha bucks, and tha bucks two superstars are not playing like superstars either
Heats team defense is fluttering Jennings and lebron is shutting down Ellis. Early in playoffs with plenty of time for Bosh and Wade to step it up but people need to stop acting like LeBron is playing with the best players left in the playoffs.
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Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
Originally Posted by k0kakw0rld
Haters are maaaaaaaaaaaaaaad and guess what? I LOVE IT
dat HGH tho
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Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
Originally Posted by FLDFSU
First, lets accept that James Wade and Bosh colluded. Still doesn't change the fact on the morning of his announcement Wade and Bosh were on the same team with enough cap space to sign yet another franchise player.
You say the Heat would have fill out their roster. There would be nothing stopping Riley from doing what New York did with Carmelo.
Sign Amare..."fill out the roster" and still sign/wait out for Melo.
Again, you're Lebron what exactly would you do?
By the way, this nonsense about contract expiring...did Amare, Joe Johnson, and Boozer collude too? They're contracts expired at the same time? The entire 2003 draft class signed the same contracts.
It had nothing to do with colluding. They were all drafted at the same time, under the same CBA rules, all franchise players. Of course they sighed the same types of deals. Any agent worth is salt is telling his client to sign the exact same contract.
Are all the NFL players drafted in the last year colluding as well? The class of 2011 all have similar contacts as well.
The Knicks were able to sign Amare & then wait trade for Melo because they already had enough players to fit a roster under contract when they signed Amare, If Miami would have only signed Wade & Bosh they would have needed the rest of that cap to fill out the roster & or they would have spent a good sum of it on a minor 3rd piece to compliment Wade & Bosh.
This spin you try to put on things to make it sound like Lebron was forced into joining the HEAT is pretty pathetic
Also, Wade & Lebron made sure when they signed their first max deals with CLE & MIAMI to have an opt out clause for the same year, this is well known and people were curious about it at the time.
You have no idea what you're talking about right now
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Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
Originally Posted by k0kakw0rld
Haters are maaaaaaaaaaaaaaad and guess what? I LOVE IT
Not his fault, but joining and forming a superteam and the competition not healthy doesn't help him one bit.
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RETIRED, ISH 2008-2013
Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
The Knicks were able to sign Amare & then wait trade for Melo because they already had enough players to fit a roster under contract when they signed Amare, If Miami would have only signed Wade & Bosh they would have needed the rest of that cap to fill out the roster & or they would have spent a good sum of it on a minor 3rd piece to compliment Wade & Bosh.
This spin you try to put on things to make it sound like Lebron was forced into joining the HEAT is pretty pathetic
Also, Wade & Lebron made sure when they signed their first max deals with CLE & MIAMI to have an opt out clause for the same year, this is well known and people were curious about it at the time.
You have no idea what you're talking about right now
and tha three stooges had that interview saying not 6, not 7 not 8, anthony and stoudamire were never that dumb to say dat
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15x all nba legend
Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
Originally Posted by FLDFSU
It does not really matter when their contracts expire. The point is that Riley had enough room to sign another franchise player. Be it in summer of 2010, 2011, or 2012. There were a number of potential free agents in 2010 that Riley could have targeted that were set to become free agents in the upcoming years.
For two and three seasons BEFORE Lebron, NYC, CHI, MIA, and NJ didn't spend cap space. Did they not field teams prior to the summer of 2010?
What exactly stops the Heat, after signing Wade and Bosh from managing their cap space for a swing at Deron Williams?
stop making yourself look like such a dumbass, those teams were specifically only acquiring contracts that would expire in 2010, when they signed or traded for a player they made sure the contract would expire in 2010.
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RETIRED, ISH 2008-2013
Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
Originally Posted by JtheEntertainer
Heats team defense is fluttering Jennings and lebron is shutting down Ellis. Early in playoffs with plenty of time for Bosh and Wade to step it up but people need to stop acting like LeBron is playing with the best players left in the playoffs.
besides lebron they have wade and bosh, dats all i gotta say
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15x all nba legend
Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
Originally Posted by FLDFSU
It does not really matter when their contracts expire. The point is that Riley had enough room to sign another franchise player. Be it in summer of 2010, 2011, or 2012. There were a number of potential free agents in 2010 that Riley could have targeted that were set to become free agents in the upcoming years.
For two and three seasons BEFORE Lebron, NYC, CHI, MIA, and NJ didn't spend cap space. Did they not field teams prior to the summer of 2010?
What exactly stops the Heat, after signing Wade and Bosh from managing their cap space for a swing at Deron Williams?
Do you really think that Riley would sign Bosh & Wade to just stall the next couple of years only signing players to 1 year contracts on the hopes of signing D will 2 years down the road
NO! If they would have signed Bosh & Wade they wouldn't have been looking to save any cap space they would have been looking to spend that cap space in hopes of putting a Championship team together for that year.
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Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
Originally Posted by ripthekik
um.. sorry, but where's his competition? Oh! They're on his team!
I lol'd
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Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
Originally Posted by JtheEntertainer
Everyone on here acting like the best players left play with lebron on the Heat: So far, neither Wade or Bosh have played anything like stars these playoffs. Ray Allen and Birdman are the ones stepping up their game... And that's I'm part from playing with lebron. Stop the nonsenee
ROFL I can already see the Lebron carried this team by himself stories beginning to form if the Heat win. Wade and Bosh were trash while he battled through the tough east with so many missing players
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Re: Is it LeBron's fault that he always stays healthy and his competition don't?
How would you feel about, say, Shaq's 2001 Championship if:
Chris Webber was out, Tim Duncan was out, and Allen Iverson was out?
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