As I predicted, the Bulls would win 45-50 games without Rose...

[D-Wade316]

No hating BTW.

[Psycho]

I HATE YOU

[COLOR="White"]btw ur a fegit[/COLOR]

[BrickingStar]

LOL AT THE 2011 MVP AWARD

[NumberSix]

Yeah, Derrick Rose is a poor man's Westbrook. True story.

[I<3NBA]

LOL AT THE 2011 MVP AWARD

many have said it before that Rose got that award undeservingly. the real MVP of the Bulls has always been their defense, orchestrated by Thibs.

[Graviton]

With Rose - 42 games above .500
Without Rose - 8 games above .500

Barely any difference man. They should just trade Rose/Butler to Lakers for Steve Nash and Gasol.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Only an idiot think them winning that amount of regular season games is a reflection of their talent, when in actuality it's evidence of the great coaching and motivation tactics of Thibs.

That's why they always bust their nut in the regular season. They play as hard as they can all season, every night. Not every team does that ... they still aren't close from a talent perspective to Miami, New York, Indiana, OKC, LA Lakers, Clippers, Spurs, Mavericks, etc.

[PieceOfFelt]

The Bulls are a good team and are well coached.

- Felt

[Graviton]

many have said it before that Lebron got that award undeservingly. the real MVP of the Heat has always been their defense, orchestrated by Spoelstra.

I agree.

[tikay0]

many have said it before that Rose got that award undeservingly. the real MVP of the Bulls has always been their defense, orchestrated by Thibs.

Very true.

[nathanjizzle]

LOL AT THE 2011 MVP AWARD

here are the bulls records against the top 8 teams in the league for 3 seasons one with a healthy rose, one with a semi healthy rose, and one with no rose.

2010-2011 (healthy rose)
14-7

2011-2012 (semi healthy rose)
9-6

havent updated for a few games*
2012-2013 (no rose)
5-12

[WayOfWade]

Nice prediction, congrats

[DMV2]

Should we laugh at Jordan's MVPs and Finals MVPs because the 1994 Bulls went 55 wins, and was 1 game away from the ECF?

With Rose, loss in 1st Round of 2012 playoffs. Prob gonna happen again this upcoming playoffs.

[PieceOfFelt]

Only an idiot think them winning that amount of regular season games is a reflection of their talent, when in actuality it's evidence of the great coaching and motivation tactics of Thibs.

That's why they always bust their nut in the regular season. They play as hard as they can all season, every night. Not every team does that ... they still aren't close from a talent perspective to Miami, New York, Indiana, OKC, LA Lakers, Clippers, Spurs, Mavericks, etc.

Good point. Regular season wins are largely meaningless.

- Felt

[NumberSix]

Should we laugh at Jordan's MVPs and Finals MVPs because the 1994 Bulls went 55 wins, and was 1 game away from the ECF?

With Rose, loss in 1st Round of 2012 playoffs. Prob gonna happen again this upcoming playoffs.

The difference is that the bulls actually had a lot of roster changes in that short time between the 2 3peats. Michael and Scottie where the only 2 players on the 2nd 3peat roster from the first one.