New franchise: Kobe Bryant or Charles Barkley?

[KOBE143]

Kobe and it's not even close..

Dude is already in his 17 years in the league and still the best compared that to Barkley who was already washed up when he was only in his 10+ years in the league.. If I remember, Charles had never been the best player in his generation.. In before he played in Jordan era.. Kobe played with Shaq, Duncan, KG, LeBron, etc. all are/were in their primes and Kobe still comes up on top.. Only idiot will choose Barkley over Kobe..

[NumberSix]

kobe will make your franchise more money and he will play for 17 years minimum so he takes this solidly

Hmmmmm. That's debatable. We say that now, because Kobe's career has followed a certain path. It's kinda like saying that about Derek Jeter.

If Jeter didn't play on the league's marquee team, he wouldn't have the 5 rings and the star power that he currently does. If he played for the A's, he'd just be one of the better SS's in the league. Not a superstar player by any stretch.

If Kobe had been drafted to Philly, he'd have 0 championships (assuming he stayed there) and would be much less of a star. If he was drafted to NYK, he'd still have 0 chips, but he'd still be a superstar player.

It really depends on the circumstances.

[dh144498]

Hmmmmm. That's debatable. We say that now, because Kobe's career has followed a certain path. It's kinda like saying that about Derek Jeter.

If Jeter didn't play on the league's marquee team, he wouldn't have the 5 rings and the star power that he currently does. If he played for the A's, he'd just be one of the better SS's in the league. Not a superstar player by any stretch.

If Kobe had been drafted to Philly, he'd have 0 championships (assuming he stayed there) and would be much less of a star. If he was drafted to NYK, he'd still have 0 chips, but he'd still be a superstar player.

It really depends on the circumstances.

you can say that about every single player. What a stupid "hmm that's debatable" argument.

[NumberSix]

you can say that about every single player. What a stupid "hmm that's debatable" argument.

Hmmmmm. Not really. Guys like LeBron, Dwight, Shaq, are gonna be stars regardless of circumstance. We're talking about guys who came into the league as high profile #1 picks who have the kind of impact to instantly make any team relevant. A guy who comes into the league as a 13th pick bench player doesn't have that same star power. Sorry, just reality. Now, would Kobe have became a star later on? Perhaps, but it's dependant on circumstances.

[PieceOfFelt]

Kobe. He plays defense and has the longevity.

- Felt

[Psycho]

Hmmmmm. Not really. Guys like LeBron, Dwight, Shaq, are gonna be stars regardless of circumstance. We're talking about guys who came into the league as high profile #1 picks who have the kind of impact to instantly make any team relevant. A guy who comes into the league as a 13th pick bench player doesn't have that same star power. Sorry, just reality. Now, would Kobe have became a star later on? Perhaps, but it's dependant on circumstances.

Hmmmmmmm, NumberSix is a piece of sh1t!

[Quintilianus]

Hmmmmm. That's debatable. We say that now, because Kobe's career has followed a certain path. It's kinda like saying that about Derek Jeter.

If Jeter didn't play on the league's marquee team, he wouldn't have the 5 rings and the star power that he currently does. If he played for the A's, he'd just be one of the better SS's in the league. Not a superstar player by any stretch.

If Kobe had been drafted to Philly, he'd have 0 championships (assuming he stayed there) and would be much less of a star. If he was drafted to NYK, he'd still have 0 chips, but he'd still be a superstar player.

It really depends on the circumstances.

How the hell would you know how many championships he would've had in other teams?

[NumberSix]

Hmmmmmmm, NumberSix is a piece of sh1t!

[NumberSix]

How the hell would you know how many championships he would've had in other teams?

Who?

[dh144498]

Who?

anyone..

[DFish24]

Kobe Bryant pretty easily.

[daily]

Hmmmmm. Not really. Guys like LeBron, Dwight, Shaq, are gonna be stars regardless of circumstance. We're talking about guys who came into the league as high profile #1 picks who have the kind of impact to instantly make any team relevant. A guy who comes into the league as a 13th pick bench player doesn't have that same star power. Sorry, just reality. Now, would Kobe have became a star later on? Perhaps, but it's dependant on circumstances.

Just stop it. You're clueless.
Having watched Kobe from the minute he became a Laker he had star power before training camp even opened.

As soon as Jerry West said he'd move mountains to get that kid in LA Kobe was a fan favorite

[dajadeed]

lmao @ thinking Kobe wouldn't be a big star somewhere else.

Kobe was voted to start in the ASG as a 19 year old when he didn't even start for the Lakers. This was before online voting got big and snotty people listened to John Tesh.

Anyone who says Barkley either doesn't know basketball or is just trolling. I lean towards trolling, and Barkley is one of my favorite players ever.

I wouldn't take Kobe over Jordan, Magic, certain players... but mother****ing Charles Barkley?