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    Default Re: What Are the Chances Miami Actually Wins 7 Championships?

    Their window closes when LeBron is finished. Considering that he's 28 right now and will likely dominate until 34-35, it's not that far-fetched. Let's say he wins his second title after this season.

    Then from 29-35 = another 7 years to win 5 more titles. Don't assume that just because Wade hits his mid-late 30's that Miami is finished all of a sudden. The game isn't that simple. Teams revamp their rosters all the time and adjust to aging personnel. LeBron took Cleveland's junk teams to consecutive 60+ win seasons and a Finals appearance. He can win with almost anything.

    There's a good chance. It's not like there are any major threats out there to dethrone Miami any time in the near future.

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    Default Re: What Are the Chances Miami Actually Wins 7 Championships?

    Lets see them get 2 first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2010splash
    Their window closes when LeBron is finished. Considering that he's 28 right now and will likely dominate until 34-35, it's not that far-fetched. Let's say he wins his second title after this season.

    Then from 29-35 = another 7 years to win 5 more titles. Don't assume that just because Wade hits his mid-late 30's that Miami is finished all of a sudden. The game isn't that simple. Teams revamp their rosters all the time and adjust to aging personnel. LeBron took Cleveland's junk teams to consecutive 60+ win seasons and a Finals appearance. He can win with almost anything.

    There's a good chance. It's not like there are any major threats out there to dethrone Miami any time in the near future.
    Think about this, to get to 7, they'll need to go to at least 6 more Finals series and go 6-0, just because MJ's Bulls did it DOES NOT mean another team could also do it. LBJ is 1 outta 3 so far so he hasn't proven to be unbeatable in the championship round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan
    Think about this, to get to 7, they'll need to go to at least 6 more Finals series and go 6-0, just because MJ's Bulls did it DOES NOT mean another team could also do it. LBJ is 1 outta 3 so far so he hasn't proven to be unbeatable in the championship round.
    and just because the Bulls did it, doens't mean it's not possible for another team to get it to 6 finals, and go 6-0 in them

    I say they end up with 3-4 when all is said and done. I expect Miller to retire and them to grab a descent big to pull boards and play some D, that's all that is missing from this teaming being an ultimate powerhouse and locking future runs.

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    Default Re: What Are the Chances Miami Actually Wins 7 Championships?

    Highly unlikely...some people need to realize just how incredibly hard it is for ANY player or team to even reach the finals much less win when they get there. Yeah Jordan has 6, Russell has 11, Kobe has 5, etc, etc...that's what, 10 players and a few different teams that have won out of the thousands and thousands of players and hundreds of different teams throughout history. It doesn't matter how good any individual player is or how good or stacked their team may be, they all have to overcome some major odds to win a title.

    I see this Heat squad realistically winning 3-4 titles being led by their current big three but after that, they will need some major revamps to the roster to even be able to contend. Meaning that they keep LeBron and rebuild around him because Wade and Bosh will be finished in 3-4 years, maybe less.

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    Default Re: What Are the Chances Miami Actually Wins 7 Championships?

    Extremely unlikely. Their absolute maximum (and that's if everything goes right and they can keep their core) is about 5 chips.

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    Default Re: What Are the Chances Miami Actually Wins 7 Championships?

    7 champions as a franchise, or 7 championships with the Big 3?

    Big 3: 0% chance at all. They would have to do a 7-peat to get it. 2012 Finals through 2018 Finals. Wade would be 36 by then. LBJ and Bosh would be 33/34-ish.

    The better question is, can the Heat get a 3-peat with this Big 3 core?

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    First off, Jordan would have had 8 if not for playing professional baseball for the Chicago White Sox.

    I just don't see it happening...

    Wade is already broken down. They were lucky to have a shortened season when they won it all last season. They can't keep going full tilt like they are for 6 more years..

    Teams are coming up with strategies to plan around the Miami Heat. Case in point, the Bulls led by 24 year old Derrick Rose, have scheduled their books, around the short-term dominance of the HEAT. A little over 1 year from now, many superstars become free agents and Chicago will be perfectly poised to add one of them to pair with All Star/MVP/Rookie of the YEAR Derrick Rose and All Stars Joakim Noah and Luol Deng.

    That's just one example.

    The Thunder and Spurs will always be around due to either young talent or superior coaching.

    The Clippers are up and coming.

    I just don't see it happening..

    They'll be lucky to win 3..

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    0% chance

    In fact they won't even be in the Finals next year. I mean how many teams have made it to the Finals four consecutive years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnoughSaid
    If Miller retires this offseason, and they sign a legit big who can defend and rebound, and go big again with Chalmers/Wade/LeBron/Bosh/C, with a bench of Allen/Battier/Haslem/Andersen/Cole/Lewis/Jones, they can win two or three more.
    Ray Allen isn't going to last 2 or 3 more...

    Neither will Battier...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2010splash
    Their window closes when LeBron is finished. Considering that he's 28 right now and will likely dominate until 34-35, it's not that far-fetched. Let's say he wins his second title after this season.

    Then from 29-35 = another 7 years to win 5 more titles. Don't assume that just because Wade hits his mid-late 30's that Miami is finished all of a sudden. The game isn't that simple. Teams revamp their rosters all the time and adjust to aging personnel. LeBron took Cleveland's junk teams to consecutive 60+ win seasons and a Finals appearance. He can win with almost anything.

    There's a good chance. It's not like there are any major threats out there to dethrone Miami any time in the near future.
    People discount those Cleveland teams too much...

    J.J. Hickson just posted 19 and 19 over the weekend. Both Delonte West and Maurice Williams were ballin' in their prime when Bron was there.

    Anderson Varaejo is a borderline All-Star player. That team had Big Z in his prime. That's two very good bigs, HEAT only have 1 now..Cavs also had players like Wally Sczerbiak (Similar to Mike Miller now but better) and Ben Wallace. They had Boobie Gibson.

    Those Cav teams were nothing to sneeze at...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReturnofJPR
    People discount those Cleveland teams too much...

    J.J. Hickson just posted 19 and 19 over the weekend. Both Delonte West and Maurice Williams were ballin' in their prime when Bron was there.

    Anderson Varaejo is a borderline All-Star player. That team had Big Z in his prime. That's two very good bigs, HEAT only have 1 now..Cavs also had players like Wally Sczerbiak (Similar to Mike Miller now but better) and Ben Wallace. They had Boobie Gibson.

    Those Cav teams were nothing to sneeze at...
    Incorrect. They won 19 games the year after LeBron left. 19 games. For a good majority of the season they had the worst record in the league that year and made somewhat of a surge towards the end to move up to second worst. If that's not evidence that they were simply terrible, I don't know what is. Plus, Bosh is better than the entire Cavs frontcourt combined.

    They might not win 7, but anywhere from 4-6 wouldn't be surprising at all.

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    Default Re: What Are the Chances Miami Actually Wins 7 Championships?

    they will get 1 more ring before they split up - no chance of getting 7 especially 7 in a row...

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    Default Re: What Are the Chances Miami Actually Wins 7 Championships?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2010splash
    Incorrect. They won 19 games the year after LeBron left. 19 games. For a good majority of the season they had the worst record in the league that year and made somewhat of a surge towards the end to move up to second worst. If that's not evidence that they were simply terrible, I don't know what is. Plus, Bosh is better than the entire Cavs frontcourt combined.

    They might not win 7, but anywhere from 4-6 wouldn't be surprising at all.
    Those players were good, bottomline. We are talking about when he was there, not afterwards. Players like Ray Allen wouldn't be in Miami if not for Bron, same thing happened to Cleveland after he left.

    J.J. Hickson, Big Z, and Anderson Varajeo are 3 very good bigs. Miami only has 1.

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    Default Re: What Are the Chances Miami Actually Wins 7 Championships?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2010splash
    Incorrect. They won 19 games the year after LeBron left. 19 games. For a good majority of the season they had the worst record in the league that year and made somewhat of a surge towards the end to move up to second worst. If that's not evidence that they were simply terrible, I don't know what is. Plus, Bosh is better than the entire Cavs frontcourt combined.

    They might not win 7, but anywhere from 4-6 wouldn't be surprising at all.
    That is terrible logic.

    Of course they were going to suck, the engine that made it go was gone. The Cleveland teams are built very much like the current Miami team(shooters, and defensive role-players). The big difference is Lebron has legitimated second option in Wade, that he never got in Cleveland.

    The Cavs FO had the right blueprint......they just came up short.

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