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    Default Re: Jordan Gives the Blueprint on Stopping Lebron Defensively

    Quote Originally Posted by tmacattack33
    No, all you posted so far was quotes from other players about Jordan's strength.

    And it's pretty safe to assume there may be a chance that guys would exaggerate Jordan's strength as opposed to some random scrubs like Greg Foster or Dana Barros.

    "Something verifiable" would be his bench press, squat, curl, or military press weight from some official measurement.
    Fine... strength aside. Jordan WAS faster, quicker and had a higher vert. Not only has vert been measured and verified but the quickness and speed isn't even a question if you watch film.

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    Default Re: Jordan Gives the Blueprint on Stopping Lebron Defensively

    Quote Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
    Top 3 perimeter defender of all time yes. The other top 2 are Payton and Pippen.
    Dead Wrong.

    1. Dennis Rodman (can do both Perimeter & paint)
    2. Michael Jordan (unbelivable cat-like defensive reflexes)
    3. Hakeem or Russell
    4. Scottie Pippen (Can guard 3-4 positions but flat footed)

    Peyton is way down the list although a great defensive player.

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    Default Re: Jordan Gives the Blueprint on Stopping Lebron Defensively

    Quote Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
    Fine... strength aside. Jordan WAS faster, quicker and had a higher vert. Not only has vert been measured and verified but the quickness and speed isn't even a question if you watch film.
    He was quicker and had a higher vertical.

    I think Cleveland Lebron's first step explosion was better though and straight ahead sprint speed. Feel free to disagree though since i never saw MJ play before 1995.

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    Default Re: Jordan Gives the Blueprint on Stopping Lebron Defensively

    Quote Originally Posted by tmacattack33
    No, all you posted so far was quotes from other players about Jordan's strength.

    And it's pretty safe to assume there may be a chance that guys would exaggerate Jordan's strength as opposed to some random scrubs like Greg Foster or Dana Barros.

    "Something verifiable" would be his bench press, squat, curl, or military press weight from some official measurement.
    I don't know why people assume that smaller and less mass means weaker.

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    Default Re: Jordan Gives the Blueprint on Stopping Lebron Defensively

    Jordan = GOAT, but most right-handed players will try to drive going right, and are more likely to pull up going left, as they are unable to explode going left and do not get past their player.

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    Default Re: Jordan Gives the Blueprint on Stopping Lebron Defensively

    Quote Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
    Better COMBINATION of. His strength is close to Lebron if not equal. I've heard all time strong men like Charles Oakley say Jordan was nearly as strong as them. I just think Lebron would be unable to bully Jordan around with his athleticism the way he does with everybody now.
    This is the gem of the thread right here. Jordan's strength equal to Lebron's? That's as stupid as saying Lebron's first step is as good as Jordan's.

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    Default Re: Jordan Gives the Blueprint on Stopping Lebron Defensively

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    Dead Wrong.

    1. Dennis Rodman (can do both Perimeter & paint)
    2. Michael Jordan (unbelivable cat-like defensive reflexes)
    3. Hakeem or Russell
    4. Scottie Pippen (Can guard 3-4 positions but flat footed)

    Peyton is way down the list although a great defensive player.
    Try reading what you quote some time kid. "Perimeter" was a word I made sure to specify with. Hakeem, Russel and Rodman were elite interior/paint defenders. Rodman was also a great perimeter defender but not to the level of Jordan, Payton and Pippen. Not even to the level of Dennis Johnson and others on the second tier.

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    Default Re: Jordan Gives the Blueprint on Stopping Lebron Defensively

    Forcing Lebron left has probabaly been on his scouting report since he was 14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
    I agree it's not an in depth scouting report and probably has already been told to players by scouts/coaches. What makes it more interesting to me is Jordan of all people commented on it. One of maybe 5 guys in NBA history that COULD probably consistently guard Lebron and hold him in check.
    MJ has no hope in stopping Lebron with the rules of today. The tools have been removed by Stern so the perimeter stars can look good and untouchable so fans buy into their greatness. Not downplaying Lebron at all. He's one of the all time greats.

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    Default Re: Jordan Gives the Blueprint on Stopping Lebron Defensively

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    If you want to get in idea how it would somewhat look like if Jordan tried to defend Lebron then watch Jordan defend Magic, if you have seen 1991 finals for example.... Magic would ragdoll MJ in the post every single time, no moves required, just back him down routinely due to the size/strength advantage.... it was like a mouse in the house... Pippen was forced to defend him instead and he didnt do so well either, but better than MJ... if the 6'8-210 lbs Magic could do that then i want to assume Lebron could do it to...



    Magic is still a better post player than lebron at this stage.

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    Default Re: Jordan Gives the Blueprint on Stopping Lebron Defensively

    Kobe on the Jordan system

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    Default Re: Jordan Gives the Blueprint on Stopping Lebron Defensively

    Good call Jordan

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    Default Re: Jordan Gives the Blueprint on Stopping Lebron Defensively

    Also the blueprint for LBJ becoming more dominating

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