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Spurs Hire GM Who Destroyed the Knicks
While Isiah gets a lot of heat for the Knicks struggles during the 2000s, in reality the man was made the captain of a sinking ship....The man responsible for steering the Titanic that was the Knicks into that iceberg was named Scott Layden.
Some of Laydens famous moves:
Howard Eisley 6 years $40 million
Shandon Anderson 5 years $40 million
Clarence Weatherspoon $8 million a year (cant remember the num of yrs)
Allan Houston 5 years $100 Million
Patrick Ewing for Glen Rice and Luc Longley
Marcus Camby and Nene for Antonio McDyess
Selected Mike Sweetney over Amare Stoudemire
Latrell Sprewell for Keith Van Horn
*years of contracts are off the top of my head but are close
Last edited by NewYorkNoPicks; 09-01-2012 at 08:36 PM.
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Re: Spurs Hire GM Who Destroyed the Knicks
Not sure if Spurs are serious, they are meant to be the best run organization around the league?
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Re: Spurs Hire GM Who Destroyed the Knicks
fckin layden... set the knicks like 10 yrs back... and isiah finished them off
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Re: Spurs Hire GM Who Destroyed the Knicks
Originally Posted by imdaman99
fckin layden... set the knicks like 10 yrs back... and isiah finished them off
Give me Isiah every day of the week over Layden. Atleast Isiah made some moves that brought in proven talent at times. I was loving that trevor Ariza for Steve Francis deal at the time. Nobody knew Stevie would fall victim to drugs and fall off the map in his 6th season
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Re: Spurs Hire GM Who Destroyed the Knicks
Originally Posted by Trentknicks
Not sure if Spurs are serious, they are meant to be the best run organization around the league?
The Spurs modeled themselves after the Jazz where Layden was a huge part so it makes plenty of sense.
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Re: Spurs Hire GM Who Destroyed the Knicks
Originally Posted by knickballer
Francis had come off a 22ppg 6apg season in Orlando and had put upthose numbers his whole career. He was Russell Westbrook before Russell Westbrook. Yea obviously him and Marbury is a strange mix but from a talent standpoint we won that trade by a mile....on paper. Had Francis not fallen into drug addiction following the deal we could have shipped him or Marbury out for a capable sidekick that fit our team better. Its all about acquiring talent. You get the best player available and worry about how it fits later.
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Re: Spurs Hire GM Who Destroyed the Knicks
Originally Posted by NewYorkNoPicks
You get the best player available and worry about how it fits later.
That's why the Knicks under Layden and Isiah failed and why they will continue to fail. Marbury and Brown was horrible. Adding Francis was ridiculous!
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Re: Spurs Hire GM Who Destroyed the Knicks
Originally Posted by NewYorkNoPicks
While Isiah gets a lot of heat for the Knicks struggles during the 2000s, in reality the man was made the captain of a sinking ship....The man responsible for steering the Titanic that was the Knicks into that iceberg was named Scott Layden.
And this effects his ability to run the Spurs scouting department how?
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Re: Spurs Hire GM Who Destroyed the Knicks
Originally Posted by magictricked
And this effects his ability to run the Spurs scouting department how?
Mike Sweetney over Amare Stoudemire
Frederic Weiss ( the guy Vince Carter literally junped over during the olympics) over Ron Artest
...great scout...
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Re: Spurs Hire GM Who Destroyed the Knicks
Originally Posted by NewYorkNoPicks
Mike Sweetney over Amare Stoudemire
Frederic Weiss ( the guy Vince Carter literally junped over during the olympics) over Ron Artest
...great scout...
Spurs think differently. You know the Spurs, probably the best run front office in the league.
Layden was great in Utah, then he goes to the worst run team in the league and mysteriously sucked now the team with an A+ record wants him. What doesn't fit in this scenario?
You're saying he was lucky or something in Utah, then his true abilities came to surface in NY now the Spurs who strike gold while they sleep makes a monstrous mistake in hiring him. You probably need to rethink some things, I'm going to stick with the Spurs know what they are doing and you don't have a clue
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Re: Spurs Hire GM Who Destroyed the Knicks
Originally Posted by magictricked
Spurs think differently. You know the Spurs, probably the best run front office in the league.
Layden was great in Utah, then he goes to the worst run team in the league and mysteriously sucked now the team with an A+ record wants him. What doesn't fit in this scenario?
You're saying he was lucky or something in Utah, then his true abilities came to surface in NY now the Spurs who strike gold while they sleep makes a monstrous mistake in hiring him. You probably need to rethink some things, I'm going to stick with the Spurs know what they are doing and you don't have a clue
Knicks one of the worst run teams? At that time? Obviously you didnt watch basketball prior to 2001. The poor management was pnly the past decade.
Knicks 1987 to 2001 = 14 straight playoff appearances
Knick roster prior to Layden went to Finals the year before and had a team of : Patrick Ewing, Marcus Camby, Larry Johnson, Latrell Sprewell, Allan Houston = a top 3 team in the league at that time, maybe top 5 at worst.
The poor management BEGAN with Layden
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Re: Spurs Hire GM Who Destroyed the Knicks
Originally Posted by NewYorkNoPicks
The poor management BEGAN with Layden
Poor management began with Dolan in 98.
Stop trying to deflect the problem. Knicks have steadily declined under the current head management team led by Dolan, it can't be they've hired that many bad GMs in a row, funny how so many of these guys do great other places then suck when they get to NY
Last edited by magictricked; 09-02-2012 at 12:25 AM.
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Re: Spurs Hire GM Who Destroyed the Knicks
First off...
Originally Posted by NewYorkNoPicks
Francis had come off a 22ppg 6apg season in Orlando and had put upthose numbers his whole career. He was Russell Westbrook before Russell Westbrook. Yea obviously him and Marbury is a strange mix but from a talent standpoint we won that trade by a mile....on paper. Had Francis not fallen into drug addiction following the deal we could have shipped him or Marbury out for a capable sidekick that fit our team better. Its all about acquiring talent. You get the best player available and worry about how it fits later.
Westbrook, in only his fourth year, is a better player than Steve Francis ever, ever was. Ever. Like no, ever. So no, he wasn't Westbrook before Westbrook. More like, he was Westbrook before Westbrook actually knew how to play in the NBA.
Second...
Originally Posted by NewYorkNoPicks
Knick roster prior to Layden went to Finals the year before and had a team of : Patrick Ewing, Marcus Camby, Larry Johnson, Latrell Sprewell, Allan Houston = a top 3 team in the league at that time, maybe top 5 at worst.
Way to be a homer, history revisionist. Name the top 10 teams in the league in that 1998-1999 lockout season.
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Re: Spurs Hire GM Who Destroyed the Knicks
He's just going to be assistant GM, not a huge thing to get worked up over. Spurs had Danny Ferry there previously, which he seemed to do well in and then he sucked as a GM on his own.
Kind of funny since the Jazz hired the Spurs previous assistant GM Dennis Lindsey as their new GM and now the Spurs take one of the Jazz assistant coaches to replace him.
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