Micheal Jordan vs Modern players

[juju151111]

MJ faced players who played throughout the the 00s and had great seasons. Mj faced people out of his prime like Kobe(Prime),Iverson(Prime),Grant hill(Prime),Paul piece(Prime),KG(Prime,Jason Kidd(Prime),Shawn marion(Prime,Bruce Bowen,Sprewell(Prime), Ray allen, Tmac,Stackhouse et.... Mj faced most of these guysthrough ages 34-40. These guys have never faced a prime MJ 88-93

MJ(38-40) vs Kobe - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC2d3nEO0Lk (<Kobe and MJ never really guarded eachother this game except one play in the end)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4T8_U4iHt4 (Kobe trys to get physical with old Mj at point 1:28 fadeaway n 2:55 fouled n 4:00 fakes Kobe. Kobe blows pass Mj at 3;54. Mj shits on rick fox the whole game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1WI6F3-wow (Kobe drops 55 on the Wizards

Mj(34-40 vs iverson - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByA0BvWBPhg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqb6wnq9w4k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyoEW3D9gE8

Mj(33-35) vs Gran hill- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-gvzAUkyaU (Mj shits on 6'8 grant hill who was said to be LJ before lebron. Myth about Mj couldn't score on taller players gets exposed)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZn71ksLmYE (Grant hill taking it to Scottie Pippen, but Mj with the clutch baskets.)

Mj(34) vs Stackhouse- (Stack talking mess got raped) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUMHZbvnMAA

Mj(38-40) vs PP - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CDcRwDufXY (PP guads Mj at 3:00 and guards Mj from 4:50 for he rest of the game they guard each oother

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHwhLbW08_8

Mj(34-38) vs KG - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmngcHYnfN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZua5HnLtCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfgJl...eature=related

Mj(38-40) vs Sprewell - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi_sLyekcDY (Mj routinly shat on Sprewell has a wizards. This game wasn't any different he hits a gameinner)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJuHwgo61IA (TMJ killing him and thy ot scared and fouls him at the end so he doesn't hit another Gamewinner punks

Ray allen vs Mj - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukEhjT16hMI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j42Yo7z_98

Mj vs Tmac - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOjllJWhbyo (My two favs playing and guarding each other. They guard each other. Prime Tmac

Mj vs Shawn Marion - LOL Shawn coldn't do anything
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjo06p5zchg (Gamewinner)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPmPu-JxJ9A (Gametying)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKKhY4BGhNM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd9ayPlqCMg

Mj vs Jason Kidd - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9b1K_gpY7Y (Kidd dropping triple doubles since 95)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bSZSwWqum8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FERPEtMYpes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI0l3GkvGuU

Mj vs Dirk/Nash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3IQK...eature=related

MJ vs Artest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV52IrBoj90

Mj vs Allan houston- Mj always rapes allan houston http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb0BJ1or_gc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYJRNJkVrGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP-Rm2atzU0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chJeKE2646U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEC1e_CfBxw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFuba0mpBDk

MJ vs Ruben/Sheed/Bonzi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c13gfGtUyL8

[andgar923]

MJ faced players who played throughout the the 00s and had great seasons. Mj faced people out of his prime like Kobe(Prime),Iverson(Prime),Grant hill(Prime),Paul piece(Prime),KG(Prime,Jason Kidd(Prime),Shawn marion(Prime,Bruce Bowen,Sprewell(Prime), Ray allen, Tmac,Stackhouse et.... Mj faced most of these guysthrough ages 34-40. These guys have never faced a prime MJ 88-93

MJ(38-40) vs Kobe - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC2d3nEO0Lk (<Kobe and MJ never really guarded eachother this game except one play in the end)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4T8_U4iHt4 (Kobe trys to get physical with old Mj at point 1:28 fadeaway n 2:55 fouled n 4:00 fakes Kobe. Kobe blows pass Mj at 3;54. Mj shits on rick fox the whole game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1WI6F3-wow (Kobe drops 55 on the Wizards

Mj(34-40 vs iverson - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByA0BvWBPhg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqb6wnq9w4k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyoEW3D9gE8

Mj(33-35) vs Gran hill- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-gvzAUkyaU (Mj shits on 6'8 grant hill who was said to be LJ before lebron. Myth about Mj couldn't score on taller players gets exposed)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZn71ksLmYE (Grant hill taking it to Scottie Pippen, but Mj with the clutch baskets.)

Mj(34) vs Stackhouse- (Stack talking mess got raped) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUMHZbvnMAA

Mj(38-40) vs PP - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CDcRwDufXY (PP guads Mj at 3:00 and guards Mj from 4:50 for he rest of the game they guard each oother

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHwhLbW08_8

Mj(34-38) vs KG - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmngcHYnfN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZua5HnLtCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfgJl...eature=related

Mj(38-40) vs Sprewell - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi_sLyekcDY (Mj routinly shat on Sprewell has a wizards. This game wasn't any different he hits a gameinner)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJuHwgo61IA (TMJ killing him and thy ot scared and fouls him at the end so he doesn't hit another Gamewinner punks

Ray allen vs Mj - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukEhjT16hMI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j42Yo7z_98

Mj vs Tmac - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOjllJWhbyo (My two favs playing and guarding each other. They guard each other. Prime Tmac

Mj vs Shawn Marion - LOL Shawn coldn't do anything
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjo06p5zchg (Gamewinner)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPmPu-JxJ9A (Gametying)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKKhY4BGhNM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd9ayPlqCMg

Mj vs Jason Kidd - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9b1K_gpY7Y (Kidd dropping triple doubles since 95)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bSZSwWqum8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FERPEtMYpes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI0l3GkvGuU

And he shat on Ruben Patterson, who was considered an elite defender, Ron I'm Metta Crazy Artest, Posey is was considered an elite defender, Kenyon Martin who again.. is considered an elite defender, Richard Jefferson the list goes on. And like you said, almost all of them in either their defensive prime or athletic prime, while MJ was past his.

This is why most people will say that MJ in his prime would embarrass the league today. Because well

[AlphaWolf24]

a much better/shorter video showing Young Kobe vs Prime MJ...all the way until older MJ vs Prime Kobe..(too many videos to watch on the OP's post)

Kobe really learned alot from playing against MJ...even after scoring 30 points against Jordan and Pippen in 1998....he showed how much he improved by dropping 55 (42 in 1 half) for the final act..proving his skillset was 2 nd to none

enjoy>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TImzuuahEGU

[andgar923]

a much better/shorter video showing Young Kobe vs Prime MJ...all the way until older MJ vs Prime Kobe..(too many videos to watch on the OP's post)

Kobe really learned alot from playing against MJ...even after scoring 30 points against Jordan and Pippen in 1998....he showed how much he improved by dropping 55 (42 in 1 half) for the final act..proving his skillset was 2 nd to none

enjoy>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TImzuuahEGU

white boy is mad.

[KG215]

Kobe really learned alot from playing against MJ...even after scoring 30 points against Jordan and Pippen in 1998....he showed how much he improved by dropping 55 (42 in 1 half) for the final act..proving his skillset was 2 nd to none

Wasn't that the game in 2002-2003 season when Jordan was almost 40? And isn't that the one where Jordan only defended Kobe a few times?

[atljonesbro]

And he shat on Ruben Patterson, who was considered an elite defender, Ron I'm Metta Crazy Artest, Posey is was considered an elite defender, Kenyon Martin who again.. is considered an elite defender, Richard Jefferson the list goes on. And like you said, almost all of them in either their defensive prime or athletic prime, while MJ was past his.

This is why most people will say that MJ in his prime would embarrass the league today. Because well…. we saw what he'd do as an old man, can you imagine what he'd do in his prime? specially in an era that favors athletic swingmen?

He would have been even better at that age in his era... Worse competition at SG. 80s and 90s players aren't magically better. MJ would have pretty much had the same career if he were in his prime now as he did back then.

People who were saying that the "Oh this player would KILL these guys if he were in his prime in the current era" doesn't really happen, this is just 1 of 100s examples i've seen on this forum.

[andgar923]

He would have been even better at that age in his era... Worse competition at SG. 80s and 90s players aren't magically better. MJ would have pretty much had the same career if he were in his prime now as he did back then.

People who were saying that the "Oh this player would KILL these guys if he were in his prime in the current era" doesn't really happen, this is just 1 of 100s examples i've seen on this forum.

[AlphaWolf24]

Wasn't that the game in 2002-2003 season when Jordan was almost 40? And isn't that the one where Jordan only defended Kobe a few times?

hhmmm..prolly 38 - 39.....but..

- using advanced math....

If teenage Kobe scored 30 points against the Bull's ( MJ/Pippen) in 98'....in 25 minutes...

and ...

- 55 points in basically 36 minutes...

- + 12 divided by 7....hmm...that would mean Kobe would most likely merk MJ / Pippen in 93' for 47 - 60 points.....

- even watching 03' Kobe drop 40 PPG 9 times in a row....I think Jordan would be in way over his head on this one.

[atljonesbro]

Nice rebuttal. I love your usage of facts, statistics, and logic to prove your point. I'm really impressed. You are truly showing you are top 5 on this forum when it comes to intelligence.

[COLOR="White"]jk you're fuc.king stupid[/COLOR]

[KG215]

He would have been even better at that age in his era... Worse competition at SG. 80s and 90s players aren't magically better. MJ would have pretty much had the same career if he were in his prime now as he did back then.

People who were saying that the "Oh this player would KILL these guys if he were in his prime in the current era" doesn't really happen, this is just 1 of 100s examples i've seen on this forum.

SG position in the early and mid-90s was deeper than it is right now. Michael Jordan, Clyde Drexler, Reggie Miller, Joe Dumars, Mitch Richmond, Jeff Hornacek, Dan Majerle, and Kendall Gill (16-4-4-2 player) off the top of my head. The SG position was definitely deeper than it is right now and it's comparable to any other time this decade.

Right now you've got past his prime on the decline Kobe and breaking down 31 year old Dwyane Wade carrying the SG flag. After that it's two other aging guys in Manu and Joe Johnson. The only real bright spots for the future are James Harden and Eric Gordon, and one of those can't stay healthy.

[KG215]

hhmmm..prolly 38 - 39.....but..

- using advanced math....

If teenage Kobe scored 30 points against the Bull's ( MJ/Pippen) in 98'....in 25 minutes...

and ...

- 55 points in basically 36 minutes...

- + 12 divided by 7....hmm...that would mean Kobe would most likely merk MJ / Pippen in 93' for 47 - 60 points.....

- even watching 03' Kobe drop 40 PPG 9 times in a row....I think Jordan would be in way over his head on this one.

No idea how you came up with any of those numbers, but Kobe isn't "merking" peak Jordan and Pippen for 47-60 points. And if Jordan would be in over his defending Kobe, Kobe would be over his head two times over defending prime/peak Jordan. The best defenders aren't going to routinely stop the best scorers from getting their points, but prime Jordan was a better and more consistent scorer than prime Kobe. Both are/were elite, but don't act like Jordan/Pippen wouldn't be able to stop Kobe while Kobe would be stopping Jordan.

[atljonesbro]

SG position in the early and mid-90s was deeper than it is right now. Michael Jordan, Clyde Drexler, Reggie Miller, Joe Dumars, Mitch Richmond, Jeff Hornacek, Dan Majerle, and Kendall Gill (16-4-4-2 player) off the top of my head. The SG position was definitely deeper than it is right now and it's comparable to any other time this decade.

Right now you've got past his prime on the decline Kobe and breaking down 31 year old Dwyane Wade carrying the SG flag. After that it's two other aging guys in Manu and Joe Johnson. The only real bright spots for the future are James Harden and Eric Gordon, and one of those can't stay healthy.

Ok I'll admit i wasn't clear about my post, i was talking about the 00s when SG was loaded (i just said current because i associated the 00s with recent still). I was thinking swapping the Prime MJ/Old MJ for comparison sake. Old MJ would have more sucess during prime MJ era then he did in Old MJ era because less competition at SG

[juju151111]

[QUOTE=andgar923]And he shat on Ruben Patterson, who was considered an elite defender, Ron I'm Metta Crazy Artest, Posey is was considered an elite defender, Kenyon Martin who again.. is considered an elite defender, Richard Jefferson the list goes on. And like you said, almost all of them in either their defensive prime or athletic prime, while MJ was past his.

This is why most people will say that MJ in his prime would embarrass the league today. Because well

[Calabis]

He would have been even better at that age in his era... Worse competition at SG. 80s and 90s players aren't magically better. MJ would have pretty much had the same career if he were in his prime now as he did back then.

People who were saying that the "Oh this player would KILL these guys if he were in his prime in the current era" doesn't really happen, this is just 1 of 100s examples i've seen on this forum.

Because he would be better...what is so hard to understand? The perimeter player friendly rules, the no contact circle under the hoop, less physical play, etc, I think he would avg 38-40 points in his scoring prime, if Wade can get to the line at will, I could see avg 12-13 free throws throughout this era, in his scoring prime. The thing that would suffer would be his defense, yet with that said he still would be a premier defender in the league.....are we going to act like Dan Marino wouldn't be better with Defensive Backs no longer allowed contact with receivers after 5 yards...his numbers would be better.

[crisoner]

When did Spreewell become a modern player?