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Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
Originally Posted by Rasheed1
None of that is relevant to the main point which is that Shaq was the far and away the best player on the Lakers during that threepeat run. The run doesnt happen at all without Shaq.
If you like Kobe better or feel he deserves a statue more? thats fine.. Thats not my point..
Look at the title of the thread, you just brought pies to a gun fight. now stop throwing them before you get hurt.
The topic is
Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
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Born again Cavs fan
Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
kobe should def get a statue outside the raptors arena........ahhahaah
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cereal killah
Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
Originally Posted by bballnoob1192
kobe should def get a statue outside the raptors arena........ahhahaah
Maybe the Miami Heat will retire his jersey. Riley always has liked Kobe
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3-time NBA All-Star
Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
Kobe will get his statue first because he will most likely be a lifelong Laker. Athlough Shaq was the guts of the 2000-2002 champs, there is too much bad blood between him and the Buss' to get a statue any time soon.
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Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
This is hilarious.
It's funny watching non-Lakers fans talk about this.
Kobe will go down with Magic as the two most beloved sports figures in LA, period. And not just basketball. Magic Johnson is still a GOD in LA, and Kobe has already reached that status.
Shaq could have been there, but he made his own bed.
You don't curse out the owner and get a statue outside of Staples.
Shaq has actually been very complimentary of the Lakers franchise and Kobe Bryant in recent years. I think he realizes how good he had it in LA, and how different the franchise is from the rest of the ones he played on. You can just tell that he would have done things differently if he could go back in time...
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Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
LA fans will go nuts for Shaq when he gets his jersey retired this year. There have been bad feelings, yes, but no one in LA underestimates anything he has done for the franchise. He was amazing, and 2000 Shaq was the most dominant player I have ever seen.
Better than any Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Bird, Dream, or anyone I saw at their peak. 2000 Shaq was the very definition of a BEAST.
Lakers haters don't understand why Lakers fans get mad when they talk about Shaq carrying that team. It's not that he didn't carry them, it's that he wasn't carrying them alone. When you use Shaq as an example to tear down Kobe, us Lakers fans will call you on your bullshit, because it's obvious most people never saw those Lakers teams religiously.
That team was so unstoppable not because it had a good 1-2 punch, it was unstoppable because it had 2 of the top 5 players in the NBA at their PRIME.
And, unlike Wade and Lebron or any other 1-2 punch, the Lakers had it set up perfectly. Get a great big man and get a great wing player. It's like a GM's wet dream.
Anyways, carry on...
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Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
Nobody likes or respects Shaq in LA.
He's a scumbag who played for the shittiest franchise in NBA history, the Celtics.
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Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
Originally Posted by Rasheed1
I know 76ers would have taken that series in 01 if there was no Shaq around to destroy everyone in the paint and set up any and all perimeter action for the rest of his teammates...
Conference Semi-Finals
G3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl51M10vEKo
G4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjfxlvvXfSw
Conference Finals
G1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkvpnmAk2xU
G2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK6BXt3uo8w
G3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsZRr5481SA
G4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjgz-9OksSU
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NBA All-star
Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
Originally Posted by Magic 32
You post that stuff as if it has any bearing on the finals..... or what the lakers would be like if they didnt have Shaq...
Like I already said, Shaq's presence set the table for everyone *ESPECIALLY KOBE*
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NBA All-star
Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
Originally Posted by magictricked
Look at the title of the thread, you just brought pies to a gun fight. now stop throwing them before you get hurt.
The topic is
Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
Pipe down the bullsh*t
This is message board, not a fight...
dont be a clown
I couldnt give a sh*t whether either one of them gets a statue (since you want me to comment on that)... Im just stating a fact that the threepeat teams were SHAQ's teams... period..
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Made that high school varsity squad
Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
Clearly kobe, no debate. Funny how the main ones saying shaq are also the main kobe haters. Hilarious. Kobe has spent his entire 16 year career as a laker and means more to the franchise than shaq. No one gives a damn about "stats, dominat player ever, more fmvps, carry another bs, per lol". Kobe kept and even expanded the lakers global popularity over the last ten years. He has broken nearly every laker franchise record possible and makes the organization so much money. By the end of his career he is def gunna challenge magic as greatest laker ever. Shaq left la not mainly bc of the fues with kobe, but bc he was 34 and demanded like 30mil and buss didnt wanna pay that. He and buss dont have the best relationship. Shaq may get a statue, but not before kobe.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
Kobe, and it's not even debatable. Stop bringing up stats, because it's irrelevant. No one denies that Kareem is statically "better" than Magic and was with the franchise longer, but who got the statue first? Yeah, Kobe threw a fit and wanted to be traded, but Magic also acted like a bitch and got his coach fired. None of this means anything. A child who was born when Kobe was drafted by the Lakers is nearing graduation now, so throughout their entire life, the Lakers franchise = Kobe Bryant. It doesn't matter how much you hate him, or how ill-advised some of his decisions are. He is the face of the franchise. He's been there his entire career. When people think of this team now they think of Kobe.
The argument over who's "better" is stupid and irrelevant here. Kobe deserves the statue more than Shaq.
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NBA Legend
Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
Kobe, and I'm not even a fan of his. Not sure what Shaq's 3 titles as "the man" have to do with Bryant's 5 titles...and him getting a statue before Shaq.
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NBA All-star
Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
A lot of Laker fans won't like it if there's a Shaq statue. They hate him.
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Re: Shaq Statue Before Kobe's?
Shaq burned every bridge possible on his way out of L.A. to South Beach. He ripped Buss, he ripped Kupchak, the organization, the town, the fans - everything. He continued to take shots blatant and indirectly, at the city and franchise.
He will have his jersey retired , but I don't see him getting a statue anytime in the near future.
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