Who Is Luckier Bill Russell or Kobe Bryant?

[asdf1990]

kobe by far, I can't remember the last time someone had a super stacked team for 80%+ of their career. He also had the goat nba coach for majority of his career. Luckbe ridebigmantoringsbe

[Rubio2Gasol]

Do you mean like a roster capable of winning or a healthy team in the playoffs capable of winning?

Wade has had a team capable of winning for like 6 of 9 years but his team hasn't always been healthy...like some of Kobe's.

Ducan has had what you would call a competitive team around him basically his entire career, Magic as well, Bird as well.

Kobe at the start of his career didn't really have a team capable of winning and then for those 3 years...so probably 5 of his 17 season were on a non competitive team.

[DatAsh]

Kobe Bryant, pretty easily. Russell played with much greater talent over all, but he played in a league where virtually ever team would be considered stacked by today's standards, so you have to look at it in perspective. Both guy were blessed with similar amounts of talent over their careers relative to the league they played in.

Bill played on what would be considered a great team(without him) for 10 years of his 13 year career.

Kobe played on what would be considered a great team(without him) for 14 years of his 17 year career.

The difference was, in the three years that Kobe's teammates faltered, the entire team fell apart; in the three years that Russell's teammates faltered, he led them to three finals appearances and two championships.

[swi7ch]

Neither.

It's Steve Nash. Dude was playing with scrubs one day to playing with not one, not two, not three, but FOUR future Hall of Famers!

Dreams/wishes do come true!

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe Bryant, pretty easily. Russell played with much greater talent over all, but he played in a league where virtually ever team would be considered stacked by today's standards, so you have to look at it in perspective. Both guy were blessed with similar amounts of talent over their careers relative to the league they played in.

Bill played on what would be considered a great team(without him) for 10 years of his 13 year career.

Kobe played on what would be considered a great team(without him) for 14 years of his 17 year career.

The difference was, in the three years that Kobe's teammates faltered, the entire team fell apart; in the three years that Russell's teammates faltered, he led them to three finals appearances and two championships.

yeah, right

Russell was never the leading scorer, in fact he was the the 3RD leading scorer on the majority of the championships, 4TH on a couple and even 7TH in his last one.
And in Game 7s he had Sam Jones drop 30-40 points

In Kobe's 09 and 10 Championship teams he was the leading scorer on his team by atleast double digits and he also led in assists. In 01 and 02 he was less then 2 ppg behind Shaq.

11 rings while being the 3rd-7th leading scorer on the team.

And I know that defense and rebounding is a huge part of the game. Ben Wallace did that. Russell was like Ben Wallace was on the 04 Pistons. He led his team in bpg and rpg, but was the 4th leading scorer, and for a big man shot a bad % like Russell did. When you look at 60s rebounding numbers and compare it to the pace of today, his rpg wouldn't be close to 20.