Is Yao Ming a first ballot HOFer?

[fatboy11]

penny hardaway FAMOUSLY...or infamously missed entire first half of season...but came back in time to start in ASG..and that was bullshit also

So, you're saying that it was rigged for Penny as well?

I think only reason you care is because perhaps you are American of Chinese heritage

I'm as white as white gets. Scotch/Irish and German.

....but in your heart of hearts....you know he was more of marketing tool for the NBA to enter Chinese tv and merchandise than he was a legit all star.

The subject isn't him being an All-Star (which he was legitimately for at least 4 seasons). The subject is him being a 1st ballot HOFer.

[FireDavidKahn]

So, you're saying that it was rigged for Penny as well?






I'm as white as white gets. Scotch/Irish and German.



The subject isn't him being an All-Star (which he was legitimately for at least 4 seasons). The subject is him being a 1st ballot HOFer.

What did he do besides be the best Chinese player to ever play in the NBA? The "opening the door to the Chinese" argument doesn't really hold much weight. How many Chinese have played in the league before/after Ming that came from China?

[riseagainst]

What did he do besides be the best Chinese player to ever play in the NBA? The "opening the door to the Chinese" argument doesn't really hold much weight. How many Chinese have played in the league before/after Ming that came from China?

it's not that there are more Chinese players entering the league, because that's dependent on whether the league wants the players. It's more about opening up the NBA market to Southeast Asia, making the NBA a true global market.

[get these NETS]

So, you're saying that it was rigged for Penny as well?






I'm as white as white gets. Scotch/Irish and German.



The subject isn't him being an All-Star (which he was legitimately for at least 4 seasons). The subject is him being a 1st ballot HOFer.

maybe you're dating an Asian woman, then?


Subject of him being any kind of HOF is laughable, subject of fans outside of America stuffing the ballot box for him EVEN when his play didn't merit it....is the REAL subject.

If I'm not mistaken, he was at some point leading asg votes THIS past season even though he had retired..

ASG is a popularity contest and it always has been, BUT.....people voting for Yao Ming made a mockery of the sport.

[riseagainst]

maybe you're dating an Asian woman, then?


Subject of him being any kind of HOF is laughable, subject of fans outside of America stuffing the ballot box for him EVEN when his play didn't merit it....is the REAL subject.

If I'm not mistaken, he was at some point leading asg votes THIS past season even though he had retired..

ASG is a popularity contest and it always has been, BUT.....people voting for Yao Ming made a mockery of the sport.

face it, if Yao Ming was black, you'd be all over his nuts, you racist bastard.

[fatboy11]

What did he do besides be the best Chinese player to ever play in the NBA? The "opening the door to the Chinese" argument doesn't really hold much weight. How many Chinese have played in the league before/after Ming that came from China?

Get off the "opening the door to the Chinese" argument. It's not about Chinese players coming into the NBA. It's about how much China has embraced the sport of basketball since the time when Yao Ming became famous. It's extends well beyond Yao Ming and other Chinese players. Look at all of the NBA players that went to China during the lockout and got good money. They can thank Yao Ming for that.

[fatboy11]

maybe you're dating an Asian woman, then?

Wrong again, Captain Racist.

Guatemalan.

Subject of him being any kind of HOF is laughable

You're just being a stubborn child now.

subject of fans outside of America stuffing the ballot box for him EVEN when his play didn't merit it....is the REAL subject.

Do you realize how many votes he received in America and Canada?

If I'm not mistaken, he was at some point leading asg votes THIS past season even though he had retired..

Pretty sure he wasn't even on the ballot, but who cares about the facts?

ASG is a popularity contest and it always has been, BUT.....people voting for Yao Ming made a mockery of the sport.

Are you sure?

I get the outrage over his rookie season.

2004 - 17.5 PPG, 9 RPG, 2 BPG, 52% FG, 81% FT
2005 - 18.3 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 2 BPG, 55% FG, 78% FT
2006 - 22 PPG, 10 RPG, 52% FG, 85% FT
2007 - 25 PPG, 9.4 RPG, 2 BPG, 51.6% FG, 86% FT
2008 - 22 PPG, 11 RPG, 2 BPG, 51% FG, 85% FT
2009 - 19.7 PPG, 10 RPG, 2 BPG, 55% FG, 87% FT

Those aren't All-Star numbers? You can trip on how many games he missed and you can trip about him starting, but don't act like he didn't belong on the court with those other players.

Dude was LEGIT All-Star all but 2 years of his career.

[riseagainst]

Wrong again, Captain Racist.

Guatemalan.



You're just being a stubborn child now.



Do you realize how many votes he received in America and Canada?



Pretty sure he wasn't even on the ballot, but who cares about the facts?



Are you sure?

I get the outrage over his rookie season.

2004 - 17.5 PPG, 9 RPG, 2 BPG, 52% FG, 81% FT
2005 - 18.3 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 2 BPG, 55% FG, 78% FT
2006 - 22 PPG, 10 RPG, 52% FG, 85% FT
2007 - 25 PPG, 9.4 RPG, 2 BPG, 51.6% FG, 86% FT
2008 - 22 PPG, 11 RPG, 2 BPG, 51% FG, 85% FT
2009 - 19.7 PPG, 10 RPG, 2 BPG, 55% FG, 87% FT

Those aren't All-Star numbers? You can trip on how many games he missed and you can trip about him starting, but don't act like he didn't belong on the court with those other players.

Dude was LEGIT All-Star all but 2 years of his career.

that dude obviously has an agenda (prolly a racist one). If Yao ming was black he'd be all over his nuts. like "omg GOAT center!"

[fatboy11]

that dude obviously has an agenda (prolly a racist one)

He's at least openly racist. He's proven that much.

[Meticode]

He got voted in to all star game when he hadn't played a game.

Too bad that doesn't mean anything for HoF voting.

[Meticode]

Thinking about Yao Ming makes me depressed. Too short of a career. Had one of the wettest mid-range jumpers.

[L.Kizzle]

Yeah, he's had a major impact.

I think he will be on the upcoming ballot as a contributor.

His NBA career, he is boderline but you add in everything else and he's first ballot.

[MavsSuperFan]

If yao were american i doubt he would get into the hof, he was just above average good player, but for obvious reasons, such as his international accomplishments he will probably be a first ballot.

Throw in the fact that the nba wants to grow internationally and that china is a huge market and the fact that the basketball hof is much less prestigious than Canton or Cooperstown and you see why Yao will almost assuredly make the hof.

[get these NETS]

Wrong again, Captain Racist.

Guatemalan.



You're just being a stubborn child now.



Do you realize how many votes he received in America and Canada?



Pretty sure he wasn't even on the ballot, but who cares about the facts?



Are you sure?

I get the outrage over his rookie season.

2004 - 17.5 PPG, 9 RPG, 2 BPG, 52% FG, 81% FT
2005 - 18.3 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 2 BPG, 55% FG, 78% FT
2006 - 22 PPG, 10 RPG, 52% FG, 85% FT
2007 - 25 PPG, 9.4 RPG, 2 BPG, 51.6% FG, 86% FT
2008 - 22 PPG, 11 RPG, 2 BPG, 51% FG, 85% FT
2009 - 19.7 PPG, 10 RPG, 2 BPG, 55% FG, 87% FT

Those aren't All-Star numbers? You can trip on how many games he missed and you can trip about him starting, but don't act like he didn't belong on the court with those other players.

Dude was LEGIT All-Star all but 2 years of his career.

resent being called Captain Racist....

maybe Major or General, but never captain

as for the stats.....put them in context of what stats were for other starting centers in WC


he was voted a starter in a year where he played 5 games in first half, which you aren't disputing

gonna look for article that mentions him being voted for heavily in season post retirement

Listen....perhaps you put your blinders on and didn't read about HEAVILY HYPED..heavily marketed players who couldn't live up to hype getting destroyed DAILY on ISH...including king james who FINALLY finally shut EVERYBODY up..and fulfilled and justified the hype machine that's been propping him up since day one

Shaq was destroyed for making ahahahahahah top 50 players ever, after his 5-6th year

KG was the peyton manning of the nba..couldn't win in playoffs
Dirk was routinely destroyed..................Kobe in the early post shaq years was destroyed....Nash, 2 time league MVP gets destroyed



Yao Ming and the hype machine behind him created backlash and he might have accumulated some stats, but I'm just not impressed...


let Yao take his lumps like other heavily marketed players..

[get these NETS]

face it, if Yao Ming was black, you'd be all over his nuts, you racist bastard.

I thought you were joking at first

hardly a bastard, my parents were married 10 years before I was born.


if Yao Ming were Black he'd be Joe Barry Carrol