Let's talk about Wilt Chamberlain unbiasedly

[DatAsh]

My first recollections were in the 63-64 season. Which, was somewhat unfair to Russell, since I didn't see much of the more offensive Russell for the rest of his career. Same with Baylor, who was injured in the 64-65 post-season, and was never the same physically again.

And, my answer would be, yes, of course.

How old are you?

[jlauber]

wait, I don't follow...apologies for not being familiar with league policy

Philly was credited with 90, which is the sum of all of the rebound totals in that line (6+7+55+9+3+3+5+2), Boston is credited with 59 (9+1+19+2+6+4+7+1+10); were the team rebounds appended to players' totals, does this box score only have the sum total and not the team totals used for year-end league statistics, or were there none this game?

Oh, if those are the player totals, then the 149 is correct. They used to add "team rebounds" down in the box score. But, here again, the league has not counted them in their team totals since 1968. So, when someone compares the league in rebounding totals from, say 1990, to those of say, 1965, it is an unfair comparision to 1965, since they were added to the team totals. You can confirm that, by adding up any team prior to 1969, and then looking at what they were given credit for in the team totals.

So, Chamberlain grabbed 55 of the available 149 rebounds, or 37% of them.

[jlauber]

How old are you?

Same age as your dad.

[fpliii]

Oh, if those are the player totals, then the 149 is correct. They used to add "team rebounds" down in the box score. But, here again, the league has not counted them in their team totals since 1968. So, when someone compares the league in rebounding totals from, say 1990, to those of say, 1965, it is an unfair comparision to 1965, since they were added to the team totals. You can confirm that, by adding up any team prior to 1969, and then looking at what they were given credit for in the team totals.

So, Chamberlain grabbed 55 of the available 149 rebounds, or 37% of them.

That means he was likely close to what, 75% + of defensive boards? Pretty intense stuff...

[jlauber]

That means he was likely close to what, 75% + of defensive boards? Pretty intense stuff...

Of course, the most remarkable aspect, though, was that he outrebounded the game's second greatest rebounder in that record-setting game, ... by 36 rebounds!

[DatAsh]

Same age as your dad.

Ok. I honestly have no idea what the exact year was that my dad started watching, but I know my grandpa was a big fan so I assume it was fairly early like it was with me.

[KOBE143]

Poor man's Javale Mcgee

[Pointguard]

I think his top year would be 34ppg with 19 rebounds, 3.5 assist, 4 blocks, 60%. 7 year peak of 31ppg, 17rebs, 4asst, 4 blocks, 57%.

[BoutPractice]

Well to start with he would be the undisputed best center in the league, with quite a reasonable gap between him and Howard. (And he would beat Howard decisively in their duels, Dwight already tends to have trouble against taller centers but he never had to face a prime Wilt, the closest was Yao).

With his physical profile, array of skills, and need to showcase his dominance, there would be no match for him in today's league.

He would put up the kind of ridiculous stats we haven't seen from the center position since Shaq (with better rebounding and more blocks, all around the stat line might look like say peak Kareem's).
He would get all sorts of individual records since a guy named Wilt Chamberlain wouldn't have been there to set them so unreachably high in the past.

He would have legions of worshippers and haters. Basketball fans would be obsessed with him, there would be tons of topics on boards like this about him (think about it, 40 years after he played with much less exposure it's already the case).
There would be a lot of nitpicking in the media. His free throw shooting would be ridiculed, he would be called a stat padder, a choker, etc.

He would be even more hated than LeBron because he wouldn't have any serious competition at his position, so he would be expected to dominate and win every single year, even with weak supporting casts. Having been drafted first overall, he would probably be on a terrible team with incompetent management like the Bobcats. He'd still take his team deep into the playoffs every year, maybe to a Finals or two. He would get coaches/teammates fired, failure after failure his relationship with the organization would sour.

Eventually he'd pull a "Decision" of his own, taking his talents to a glamorous location, most likely LA because they always get the big centers. He would be despised even more, but would finally win championships with the help of All-Star teammates.

Due to his charisma, he would be the most recognizable personality in the league since Shaq. His personal life would be examined, and he would probably be involved in some kind of scandal. (I can imagine him publicly sending a tweet by accident to one of those 20 000 women, for starters, but there might be something more major.)

So all in all, very much a Shaq-like start to his career, but I picture him having better longevity due to his superior athletic profile and ability to reinvent himself.

[SyRyanYang]

Well to start with he would be the undisputed best center in the league, with quite a reasonable gap between him and Howard. (And he would beat Howard decisively in their duels, Dwight already tends to have trouble against taller centers but he never had to face a prime Wilt, the closest was Yao).

With his physical profile, array of skills, and need to showcase his dominance, there would be no match for him in today's league.

He would put up the kind of ridiculous stats we haven't seen from the center position since Shaq (with better rebounding and more blocks, all around the stat line might look like say peak Kareem's).
He would get all sorts of individual records since a guy named Wilt Chamberlain wouldn't have been there to set them so unreachably high in the past.

He would have legions of worshippers and haters. Basketball fans would be obsessed with him, there would be tons of topics on boards like this about him (think about it, 40 years after he played with much less exposure it's already the case).
There would be a lot of nitpicking in the media. His free throw shooting would be ridiculed, he would be called a stat padder, a choker, etc.

He would be even more hated than LeBron because he wouldn't have any serious competition at his position, so he would be expected to dominate and win every single year, even with weak supporting casts. Having been drafted first overall, he would probably be on a terrible team with incompetent management like the Bobcats. He'd still take his team deep into the playoffs every year, maybe to a Finals or two. He would get coaches/teammates fired, failure after failure his relationship with the organization would sour.

Eventually he'd pull a "Decision" of his own, taking his talents to a glamorous location, most likely LA because they always get the big centers. He would be despised even more, but would finally win championships with the help of All-Star teammates.

Due to his charisma, he would be the most recognizable personality in the league since Shaq. His personal life would be examined, and he would probably be involved in some kind of scandal. (I can imagine him publicly sending a tweet by accident to one of those 20 000 women, for starters, but there might be something more major.)

So all in all, very much a Shaq-like start to his career, but I picture him having better longevity due to his superior athletic profile and ability to reinvent himself.

Great post.
As for his free throws, I don't think it'll be as bad as it was, for all these training specialists we have today

[Deuce Bigalow]

35-40 PPG 14-18 RPG .5 to 7 Assists...5 to 6 blocks per game.

I think his top year would be 34ppg with 19 rebounds, 3.5 assist, 4 blocks, 60%. 7 year peak of 31ppg, 17rebs, 4asst, 4 blocks, 57%.

Yeah, right

[SyRyanYang]

Yeah, right

Relax dude, jlauber's not here. Oh wait...

[fpliii]

Yeah, right

mzinga banned me again, with multiple proxies and a completely different name

I'm done posting there, I think I'm gonna pick one day of the week to set aside a couple of hours to just troll that board hardcore

if I'm gonna get banned regardless of what I post, might as well make the most of it

[Deuce Bigalow]

mzinga banned me again, with multiple proxies and a completely different name

I'm done posting there, I think I'm gonna pick one day of the week to set aside a couple of hours to just troll that board hardcore

if I'm gonna get banned regardless of what I post, might as well make the most of it

ESPN isn't a serious board anymore. I stopped posting there a while ago.

[fpliii]

ESPN isn't a serious board anymore. I stopped posting there a while ago.

true that, but there are a few people on there I like p*ssing off (Bulls fans)

time to watch the 100m prelims, peace out bro