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Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
Originally Posted by bagelred
Unless Dallas needs the cap space for something else, what is the point of amnestying Haywood? If you lose Mahinmi, why not just have a Kaman/Haywood rotation?
Because they're probably bringing in Elton Brand (need cap space for him) and Brandan Wright is just as good as Haywood.
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Serious playground baller
Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
Originally Posted by bagelred
Unless Dallas needs the cap space for something else, what is the point of amnestying Haywood? If you lose Mahinmi, why not just have a Kaman/Haywood rotation?
Well, Haywood was losing minutes last year, especially in crunch time to Mahinmi and Branden Wright. Wright actually won a few games with his defense and offense last year in closing minutes. My guess is they are banking on Brand claim and using Wright more.
But yea, if you have the cap space, why not keep a big 7 footer?
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Serious playground baller
Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
Originally Posted by UtahJazzFan88
Because they're probably bringing in Elton Brand (need cap space for him) and Brandan Wright is just as good as Haywood.
Bingo
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Good college starter
Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
Unless Dallas needs the cap space for something else, what is the point of amnestying Haywood? If you lose Mahinmi, why not just have a Kaman/Haywood rotation?Unless Dallas needs the cap space for something else, what is the point of amnestying Haywood? If you lose Mahinmi, why not just have a Kaman/Haywood rotation?
Because Brand is a better basketball player at this stage of his career and his deal is expiring so the Mavs will have options at the end of next year. Does that mean they will get Howard? No. I doubt Howard goes to Dallas. But by getting other pieces allows Dallas to make a trade at the deadline for something else.
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Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
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Jazz | Utes | Raiders
Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
Originally Posted by Locked_Up_Tonight
Because Brand is a better basketball player at this stage of his career and his deal is expiring so the Mavs will have options at the end of next year. Does that mean they will get Howard? No. I doubt Howard goes to Dallas. But by getting other pieces allows Dallas to make a trade at the deadline for something else.
Here's some realistic free agents in 2013 they could get.
Andrew Bynum - Unrestricted
Monta Ellis - Player Option
Iggy - Player Option (Probably opts-in)
Harden - Restricted (Could overpay for him if OKC decides not to extend him)
Josh Smith - Unrestricted
Paul Millsap - Unrestricted
Al Jefferson - Unrestricted
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Serious playground baller
Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
Originally Posted by Locked_Up_Tonight
Because Brand is a better basketball player at this stage of his career and his deal is expiring so the Mavs will have options at the end of next year. Does that mean they will get Howard? No. I doubt Howard goes to Dallas. But by getting other pieces allows Dallas to make a trade at the deadline for something else.
Yerp... This is like last year, except hopefully there won't be a dramatic breakdown of what is supposed to be one of our main rotation guys.
Hopefully Dahntay Jones doesn't start dating a Kardashian.
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Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
Originally Posted by Locked_Up_Tonight
Because Brand is a better basketball player at this stage of his career and his deal is expiring so the Mavs will have options at the end of next year. Does that mean they will get Howard? No. I doubt Howard goes to Dallas. But by getting other pieces allows Dallas to make a trade at the deadline for something else.
But at least next year there are some more FA out there than just Deron Williams. Even after Dwight you still have some bigs like Bynum, Jefferson, Josh Smith (probably has the athletism to play the Chandler role in Mavs system, but the intelligence?), Pekovic, Mozgov, Splitter and a lot of RFA/team options. So even if you bomb out on Dwight your consolation prize might still be an all-star center.
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Serious playground baller
Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
Originally Posted by UtahJazzFan88
Here's some realistic free agents in 2013 they could get.
Andrew Bynum - Unrestricted
Monta Ellis - Player Option
Iggy - Player Option (Probably opts-in)
Harden - Restricted (Could overpay for him if OKC decides not to extend him)
Josh Smith - Unrestricted
Paul Millsap - Unrestricted
Al Jefferson - Unrestricted
I've always heard Marc Stein say Dallas brass loves Monta. Now, this was about 2 years ago when they were going after him in trade, but Monta would give Dallas (or more importantly Dirk) some scoring help.
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Good college starter
Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
And here's a post from a fellow Mav fan on a Mav board:
The new acquisitions can be packaged after December 15th:
Kaman - $8 mil
D. Jones - $2.9 mil
Collison - $2.3 mil
VC - $3.1
Roddy - $2.2 mil
DoJo - $1.3 mil
Wright - 900k
Total = $20.8 mil
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Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
The more I think about it , the more a steal that was for Mavericks. Two quality players for a center you weren't signing anyway. Pacers didn't maximize possible payout for those two guys.
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Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
Great trade for the Mavs. They are going to need players to replace Kidd/Terry's production and they are getting younger and cheaper players in the process.
They should be looking to get OJ Mayo to have some attractive pieces for Dwight next summer.
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Decent playground baller
Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
I kinda wanna see Dallas go after Mayo. The roster is starting to look nice.
Potentially:
Collison - Beaubois
Mayo? - Carter
Marion - Jones
Nowitzki - Wright
Kaman - James?
I think Dallas is possibly looking to land Howard in december (if he isn't traded by then) but even without him the mavs are still in the mix of things.
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Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
A very solid move by the Mavs, got two starters!
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Re: Darren Collison for Ian Mahinmi S&T.
Great signing for Dallas. Collison is solid.
Originally Posted by Locked_Up_Tonight
And here's a post from a fellow Mav fan on a Mav board:
The new acquisitions can be packaged after December 15th:
Kaman - $8 mil
D. Jones - $2.9 mil
Collison - $2.3 mil
VC - $3.1
Roddy - $2.2 mil
DoJo - $1.3 mil
Wright - 900k
Total = $20.8 mil
Wow, that's like half the team, for the price of one big FA.
What would the depth look like after trading them I wonder.
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