Interesting Stat: Kobe needs 23 more assists....

[Calabis]

Hating on longetivity ? Next thing we know, you will be hating on KAJ.

longevity?? Dude came into a 50 win playoff team....name everyone on that list that has had that benefit...not to mention 7 game series every round....does that equal longevity? No it equals being fortunate and kinda lucky with circumstances.

[Hittin_Shots]

longevity?? Dude came into a 50 win playoff team....name everyone on that list that has had that benefit...not to mention 7 game series every round....does that equal longevity? No it equals being fortunate and kinda lucky with circumstances.

Both fortunate and kinda lucky?

[pauk]

Nice, but...

Kobe Bryant accomplished that feat by a simple matter of long, long years, having 15 playoff appearances (220 playoff games) averaging 4.7 apg...

Besides the nice longevity the context itself of that feat is actually not so impressive, for you to understand what i mean then take a look at the current Non-PG assist leader (Larry Bird) on that playoff assist list:

---It took Larry Bird 60 less playoff games to accomplish those assists Kobe has right now.

---If Larry Bird played 220 playoff games like Kobe he would have 1430 playoff assists trailing only Stockton & Magic... no non-PG would be able to touch this, except probably Lebron.... Lebron who himself is actually 276 assists away from Kobe's playoff assists and did it with 8 less playoff appearances and 105 less games.... If Lebron played 220 playoff games he would have 1500+ assists...

Kobe averages 69 assists per playoff run
Bird averaged 89 assists per playoff run

Stockton averaged 97 assists per playoff run
Lebron averages 111 assists per playoff run (with that pace, it will take him only ~3 more playoff runs to surpass Kobe)
Magic averaged 180 assists per playoff run

[BuffaloBill]

Damn Pauk, do you have to hate on everything Kobe does? Did he rape your sister or something?

[Calabis]

Both fortunate and kinda lucky?

Yeah is it that hard to comprehend

Fortunate: Bringing something good and unforeseen (Hornets to Lakers a 50 win team, with the most dominant force in basketball)

Luck: a combination of circumstances, events, etc., operating by chance to bring good (after Shaq leaves his franchise lands Gasol/Odom/Bynum...giving him the most dominant front court in the league)

[Kblaze8855]

Reading this topic really makes me wonder why people who dont care enough about history to look into it argue about peoples place in it.

There are so many reasons this "record" doesnt matter its hard for me to even believe this was posted to begin with. Forget if you think Bird and older players just...failed to lead their teams to as much playoff success as Kobe and therefore played less games....

When I was a kid....the #1 seed got a BYE in the playoffs.

The Celtics didnt even PLAY the first round every year. Now its 4 to 7 games. And in those times....even if you didnt get a bye? The first round was THREE games. Best of 3...so...you win games one and two...series over.

Larry Bird was probably working on his 3rd ring before he could even play the first round if he had the #1 seed and if he played it...its a 3 game series.


Talking about Kobe as about to break a record nobody before now had a chance to set under anything close to the same conditions? Really?

And its not like a playoff totals record is always due to playing the best. Even if everyone in question played the same number of rounds....one guy sweeps his way to the finals and the other goes the distance playing worse all along...the guy who played better and led his team to Ws....has WORSE totals.

Bill Russell won 11 rings in 12 finals trips and played less playoff games than Sam Perkins who while playing in 2 more playoffs(played longer than Bill) went out first round 6 times and made 9 less finals.

People have won the title only playing 12 games. You can not make the conference finals and play 14 today. Kobe just played 12 games and lost in the second round.

It is not even close to fair to compare totals vs players of the past. Them playing too well HURT their numbers. Dominate too much and get a #1 seed you dont even play the first round. Or get a #2 seed and play a weak team and sweep them...in 2 games.

Played too well to stack numbers.

But lets just take the totals at face value and ignore everything...call it hating if it makes it obvious Kobe wont have the record due to playing the best in this area or even the most longevity. He will have it(till lebron takes it) because his era gives you more playoff games to play per round which is why 4 players from the Shaq/Kobe lakers are top 5 all time in playoff games played.

Its not superior dominance. Its not having a first round bye, not having a 2 game first round when you dont have a bye, and not finishing off teams very quickly leading to long playoff series.

Which should be too obvious to make such a topic. Either you care about history or you dont. If you dont care how these things come about...why talk about where someone ranks in relation to people from the past?

[DirtySanchez]

There are two dumb arguments going on here...

Argument one is this so called record....who cares?!?!?!
Kobe has had a long career and was a part of many successful teams.
People saying it's luck others want to attribute the longevity to Kobe work ethic and skill...hey it's a little bit of both. But at the end of the day the record for non point guard assist in the playoffs sounds like a lot of meaningless wind.

But I understand where it comes from....it is a rebuttal for argument number 2 ....Kobe doesn't pass etc.

Has it ever been this man's game to pass? It is a dumb knock on a brilliant career so far. Kobe is a scorer always has been always will be.

Any how my 2 cents on this whole matter.

Kids today argue over the dumbest sh*t now.