Rank players 10-15 in your all-time list

[Deuce Bigalow]

5 rings, 2 finals MVPs, and 3rd alltime in playoff scoring...and
Dr J, moses, malone, west, oscar, ect are ahead of him?
Kobe has more rings than those players combined

[Rnbizzle]

There is absolutely no way Stockton is top 15.

I love him as a player, may be a bit biased here.

[Odinn]

Interesting....dare to explain why Moses and J > Kobe and Hakeem though?

I think Moses Malone truly underrated. He can be easily overlooked for a 3-times MVP winner because he changed teams so many times.

Dr. J actually doesn't need that much explanation. Before goat lists became this much complicated, he had a case for the goat. Because he was on that level. His ABA situation makes harder to rank him but I believe he belongs to the top 10. When you look at his career #s, after ABA there is a dramatic fall in his #s but before Moses' arrival he was still able to make it to the NBA Finals. He carried the Sixers to the Finals 1977(which his first year in NBA), 1980 and 1982.

[DMAVS41]

I think Moses Malone truly underrated. He can be easily overlooked for a 3-times MVP winner because he changed teams so many times.

Dr. J actually doesn't need that much explanation. Before goat lists became this much complicated, he had a case for the goat. Because he was on that level. His ABA situation makes harder to rank him but I believe he belongs to the top 10. When you look at his career #s, after ABA there is a dramatic fall in his #s but before Moses' arrival he was still able to make it to the NBA Finals. He carried the Sixers to the Finals 1977(which his first year in NBA), 1980 and 1982.

Dr. J has no case for GOAT if you saw him play. He was great, but he wasn't the caliber of player that should get GOAT consideration.

He is harder to rank because of his ABA days, but just in terms of his impact I'd take quite a few guys in this era alone over him. Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, Dirk, KG, Wade, and Lebron are all players I think were/are better than Dr. J. Not that all of those guys should rank higher than him now, but I think all of those guys were better players.

As for the thread:

1. MJ
2. Russell
3. Magic
4. Wilt
5. Kareem
6. Duncan
7. Bird
8. Shaq
9. Hakeem
10. Kobe


11. West
12. Oscar
13. Moses
14. Pettit
15. Dirk

[pauk]

I think it is well-established that the top 10 players of all-time are these guys....

Jordan
Bryant
Magic
Bird
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Duncan
Shaq
Hakeem


Who are the next 5?

1st of all... Kobe is not an undisputed top 10 player... Kobes place is at best #9... #10-#11 makes more sense....

2nd of all... Kobe doesnt belong next to Jordan or Magic... i dont even care if that is a random list....



As far as giving the answer on topic:

#1 - Jordan
#2 - Wilt
#3 - Kareem
#4 - Russell
#5 - Magic
#6 - Bird
#7 - Shaq
#8 - Oscar
#9 - Tim Duncan
#10 - Hakeem

#11 - Kobe Bryant
#12 - Jerry West
#13 - Moses Malone
#14 - Karl Malone
#15 - Bob Pettit/Bob Cousy/Barkley/Lebron/Dirk all debatable

[Heavincent]

1st of all... Kobe is not an undisputed top 10 player.

Yes he is. Just learn to deal with it.

[pauk]

kobe does not belong over...

#1 - Jordan
#2 - Wilt
#3 - Kareem
#4 - Russell
#5 - Magic
#6 - Bird
#7 - Shaq
#8 - Tim Duncan

....whatsoever........... Hakeem & Oscar have an extremly small edge according to me, but you can have Kobe over them if you so like... makes me scratch the head anyways, but thats just me... but ok..... but over those other 8 players... Kobe does NOT belong...

[G-Funk]

11. Julius Erving
12. Kobe Bryant
13. Jerry West
14. Moses Malone
15. Kevin Garnett

[pauk]

Yes he is. Just learn to deal with it.

Hakeem & Oscar dispute that #9-#10 spot very very thoroughly...... as far those other 8 guys mentioned above, Kobe has no place... only a homer would place Kobe over:

Jordan
Kareem
Russell
Wilt
Magic
Bird
Shaq
Duncan

[Heavincent]

kobe does not belong over...

#1 - Jordan
#2 - Wilt
#3 - Kareem
#4 - Russell
#5 - Magic
#6 - Bird
#7 - Shaq
#8 - Tim Duncan

....whatsoever........... Hakeem & Oscar have an extremly small edge according to me, but you can have Kobe over them if you so like... makes me scratch the head anyways, but thats just me... but ok..... but over those other 8 players... Kobe does NOT belong...

We're done here.

[Scholar]

I think it is well-established that the top 10 players of all-time are these guys....

Jordan
Bryant
Magic
Bird
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Duncan
Shaq
Hakeem


Who are the next 5?

I won't list them in order, but the next 5 should be:

Jerry West
Dr. J
Karl Malone
Charles Barkley
John Stockton

[Bernie Nips]

Why is my post getting laughed at, when people are including Dirk at no. 15 and that's all good?

KG > Dirk

[Deuce Bigalow]

Hakeem & Oscar dispute that #9-#10 spot very very thoroughly...... as far those other 8 guys mentioned above, Kobe has no place... only a homer would place Kobe over:

Jordan
Kareem
Russell
Wilt
Magic
Bird
Shaq
Duncan

has "no place" over Duncan, and Shaq?
Oscar...
0 rings as the best player

[talkingconch]

Hakeem & Oscar dispute that #9-#10 spot very very thoroughly...... as far those other 8 guys mentioned above, Kobe has no place... only a homer would place Kobe over:

Jordan
Kareem
Russell
Wilt
Magic
Bird
Shaq
Duncan

lol Kobe and Duncan are interchangeable.

Oscar?? Do rings not matter anymore?

I'm guessing if he wins 1 more ring you'll put him at #9

[DMAVS41]

I won't list them in order, but the next 5 should be:

Jerry West
Dr. J
Karl Malone
Charles Barkley
John Stockton

Stockton?

ROFL....