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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
i just calculated kobes carreer avg points per game without his first 4 years starting at the age of 22 the same age wade came in the league
he average 28.15 points per game.
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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
Originally Posted by Round Mound
From 2004 to 2011 Wade has Been a Better Player than Kobe
Career Season
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Wade: 25.4 PPG/48.5% FG/5.1 RPG/6.3 APG/1.8 SPG/1.1 BPG/ 3.6 TOVs PG/2.6 PFsPG/PER: 25.7/DRT 104[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Sienna"]Kobe: 25.3 PPG/45.4% FG/4.1 RPG/4.7 APG/ 1.5 SPG/0.5 BPG/2.9 TOVs PG/2.6 PFs PG/PER: 23.5/DRT 105[/COLOR]
Career Play-Offs:
[COLOR="darkred"]Wade: 25.9 PPG/48.3% FG/5.7 RPG/ 5.6 APG/1.6 SPG/ 1.0 BPG/ 4.0 T0Vs PG/3.0 PFs PG/ PER: 24.6/ DRT 102[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Sienna"]Kobe: 25.4 PPG/44.8% FG/5.1 RPG/4.8 APG/1.4 SPG/0.7 BPG/3.0 TOVs PG/3.0 PFs PG/ PER: 22.3/ DRT 106[/COLOR]
Only Reason why Wade has more TOVs is because he has played with Weaker Casts than Kobe has
Head to Head: Wade Dominated the game All Around Wise
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...01&p2=wadedw01
Bryant is the Most Overrated Superstar of All Time....Right there with Bill Russell
Wade is More Impactfull, Efficient and All Around Wise Plus D > Bryant
Do this statistical analysis of Kobe and Wade from 04-now.
If stats are proof, Wade should still have better stats.
Using career stats to assess which player is better while disregarding the fact Kobe rode the bench for his first two seasons makes your argument flawed.
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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
Originally Posted by nathanjizzle
i just calculated kobes carreer avg points per game without his first 4 years starting at the age of 22 the same age wade came in the league
he average 28.15 points per game.
Why the first 4? Kobe became a starter in his 3rd year. Use playing time, not age.
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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
Originally Posted by nathanjizzle
i just calculated kobes carreer avg points per game without his first 4 years starting at the age of 22 the same age wade came in the league
he average 28.15 points per game.
And if you remove Wade's rookie year and injury-riddled 07-08 season, his stats would greatly increase as well.
So much for if
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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
Originally Posted by D-Wade316
And if you remove Wade's rookie year and injury-riddled 07-08 season, his stats would greatly increase as well.
So much for if
do it.
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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
Originally Posted by Cali Syndicate
Why the first 4? Kobe became a starter in his 3rd year. Use playing time, not age.
it would only be fair to do it this way if your comparing stats...i mean kobes not even fully developed mentally or physically till hes over 21 anyway. dwayne wade came in the league already mature.
Also im not biased towards any player....just make your comparisons fair.
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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
Kobe has the better WAR.
Kobe has the better peak WS.
Kobe has better adjusted offensive +/- numbers.
Kobe's clutch numbers crush Wade's.
Kobe statistically destroys Wade as a scorer, is a better re-bounder, and a better defender.
Kobe from 2001-2010: 29 PPG/6 RPG/5 RPG/2 SPG/0.6 BPG/56% TS
Kobe>Wade!
BTW, Wade's PER/WS numbers are inflated from playing on teams with very low pace numbers. The exact opposite happens with Kobe. For example, Kobe in 08 put up 28.3/6.3/5.4/1.8/58% TS and "only" had a 24 PER.
Now look at 2011: 24 PER despite only doing 25/5/5/1/55% TS?
Why? The Lakers were among the slowest in the league, while in 08 they were the 6th fastest.
PER/WS love ball-dominant guys on very slow-paced teams. That's one of the reasons guys like LeBron/Peak CP3/LeBron do so well there.
2ez
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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
Originally Posted by nathanjizzle
it would only be fair to do it this way if your comparing stats...i mean kobes not even fully developed mentally or physically till hes over 21 anyway. dwayne wade came in the league already mature.
Also im not biased towards any player....just make your comparisons fair.
if you use age, your disregarding Kobe's 4 year learning curve in the NBA and 2 as a full time starter. I understand what you're saying about fairness but to be fair, it has to be playing time.
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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
Originally Posted by Cali Syndicate
if you use age, your disregarding Kobe's 4 year learning curve in the NBA and 2 as a full time starter. I understand what you're saying about fairness but to be fair, it has to be playing time.
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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
Originally Posted by nathanjizzle
it would only be fair to do it this way if your comparing stats...i mean kobes not even fully developed mentally or physically till hes over 21 anyway. dwayne wade came in the league already mature.
Also im not biased towards any player....just make your comparisons fair.
Kobe spent two years as an NBA player. Spent two years coming to team practices and working with NBA trainers developing his game.
You really think he wasn't as mentally prepared for the NBA as Wade was as a rookie just because of age?
By age 22 Wade spent 2 years in Marquette's basketball program. Kobe spent 4 years in the NBA. You really think using age is fair?
Perspective-
Kobe was scoring 28ppg at the age of 22.
Do you honestly believe if Kobe was an NBA rookie at age 22 that he would be scoring 28ppg?
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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
Originally Posted by Round Mound
From 2004 to 2011 Wade has Been a Better Player than Kobe
Career Season
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Wade: 25.4 PPG/48.5% FG/5.1 RPG/6.3 APG/1.8 SPG/1.1 BPG/ 3.6 TOVs PG/2.6 PFsPG/PER: 25.7/DRT 104[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Sienna"]Kobe: 25.3 PPG/45.4% FG/4.1 RPG/4.7 APG/ 1.5 SPG/0.5 BPG/2.9 TOVs PG/2.6 PFs PG/PER: 23.5/DRT 105[/COLOR]
Career Play-Offs:
[COLOR="darkred"]Wade: 25.9 PPG/48.3% FG/5.7 RPG/ 5.6 APG/1.6 SPG/ 1.0 BPG/ 4.0 T0Vs PG/3.0 PFs PG/ PER: 24.6/ DRT 102[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Sienna"]Kobe: 25.4 PPG/44.8% FG/5.1 RPG/4.8 APG/1.4 SPG/0.7 BPG/3.0 TOVs PG/3.0 PFs PG/ PER: 22.3/ DRT 106[/COLOR]
Only Reason why Wade has more TOVs is because he has played with Weaker Casts than Kobe has
Head to Head: Wade Dominated the game All Around Wise
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...01&p2=wadedw01
Bryant is the Most Overrated Superstar of All Time....Right there with Bill Russell
Wade is More Impactfull, Efficient and All Around Wise Plus D > Bryant
6 billion people think otherwise, biatch :)
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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
And are you saying 21 years of age is like some golden number for breaking into maturity?
Because I was under the assumption all people mature at different rates.
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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
Why did you say from 04 to 11 but use kobes entire career numbers?
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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
Originally Posted by Cali Syndicate
Kobe spent two years as an NBA player. Spent two years coming to team practices and working with NBA trainers developing his game.
You really think he wasn't as mentally prepared for the NBA as Wade was as a rookie just because of age?
By age 22 Wade spent 2 years in Marquette's basketball program. Kobe spent 4 years in the NBA. You really think using age is fair?
Perspective-
Kobe was scoring 28ppg at the age of 22.
Do you honestly believe if Kobe was an NBA rookie at age 22 that he would be scoring 28ppg?
look, i dont even want to argue about this stupid shit because im correct.
the OP gives a misconstrued perception comparison of both players stats. kobe entered at 18 with only 4 years of highschool experience...dwyane wade came in with 3 years of college. If you wanted to be fair you have to factor that in or atleast consider it. Also kobes past prime numbers are already calculated.....wades past prime numbers are only partially calculated.
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Re: Statistical Evidence says Wade > Bryant
Originally Posted by Cali Syndicate
And are you saying 21 years of age is like some golden number for breaking into maturity?
Because I was under the assumption all people mature at different rates.
yea thats exactly wat i said.
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