What player is the best dribbler in the NBA?

**Go Getter** · 10-27-2011, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by whatever666

Rank "A+" dribblers, in terms of ballcontrol and handling moves, some of them are better at handling moves, some are better at ballcontrol but they are the best of the best overall:
1. Chris Paul (i give him "A++")
2. Derrick Rose
3. Jamal Crawford
4. Tyreke Evans
5. Deron Williams
6. Steve Nash
7. Rajon Rondo

Rank "A" dribblers:
1. Dwyane Wade
2. Lebron James
3. Jason Kidd
4. Brandon Jennings
5. John Wall
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Baron Davis

Wall, Davis, James, and Wade don't belong in the discussion.

Guys like:

Conley
Augustine
TJ Ford
TP

have better handles.

**Jasper** · 10-27-2011, 10:16 PM

When you talk about dribbling , I look at size , and speed and start deducting from each player who isn't the quickest.

Majic Johnson for example was a 6'8" PG , but used his size to eliminate interventions...
Speedy Claxton and other short players had lights out speed to prevent steals.

There are only three players in the league I consider elite dribbles and all 3 will probably go to the HOF.
Jason Kidd at 6'5" was a couple inches taller than a proto type PG , but his quickness to the spot , speed and height where all used as his weapons to see the floor. Why else would he be a triple double guy

He was a sauve' PG with great handles.

CP3 is a inch or two shorter than a proto type PG , but his speed and exceptional quickness gets him to run thru , around , and back into the lane. Can't do that without handles that eliminates turnovers.
He is a constant double double guy,, if he only had better teammates

And we come to the 2 time MVP Steve Nash... Size , speed , strength , guts , court vision ... guys this is a master of the handles....

IMO he is the best I ever saw... Just sad to see he never got a ring.

**MELOgamaniac** · 10-28-2011, 12:31 AM

Melo.

tyreke second.

**whatever666** · 10-28-2011, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by Go Getter

Wall, Davis, James, and Wade don't belong in the discussion.

Guys like:

Conley
Augustine
TJ Ford
TP

have better handles.

I look at ballcontrol and handling moves and those players you mentioned have it, but what they dont have is the productive outcome of their ballhandling. Why i think those other players have the edge (like Wade, Lebron, Kobe and so on) is that they are much bigger threats with their ballhandling, their ballhandling actually have a much more effective outcome, whats the point of simply being a great ballhandler visually when you cant use it at your disposal to punish the opposing team?

**Nash-tastic** · 10-28-2011, 02:40 AM

Steve Nash.

Protects the ball very well, can split double-teams, not to fancy with his crossover but effective. I forgot the number of times Nash has just dribbled into the paint and dish it for an easy score inside or a open 3.

**InspiredLebowski** · 10-28-2011, 03:03 AM

Jamaal Tinsley doesn't have a contract right? Guy's a dickhead but he can handle the damn rock.

**EricForman** · 10-28-2011, 06:32 AM

i really think DRose's point guard abilities are being overblown by some on ISH. make no mistake, he is a superstar, a great player, a worthy MVP. but he is a Wade type of player. He scores and attacks the rim.

His handles, and passing, although good, are nowhere near true playmaker level like Chris Paul and Steve Nash.

**Go Getter** · 10-28-2011, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by whatever666

I look at ballcontrol and handling moves and those players you mentioned have it, but what they dont have is the productive outcome of their ballhandling. Why i think those other players have the edge (like Wade, Lebron, Kobe and so on) is that they are much bigger threats with their ballhandling, their ballhandling actually have a much more effective outcome, whats the point of simply being a great ballhandler visually when you cant use it at your disposal to punish the opposing team?

If you're talking about "positive outcome" you're dipping into the scoring realm.

Guys use it to set up offenses and assists, not just scoring.

They set pace, slow things down to allow for communication, and get the defense off balance.

Things like that are often missed by the untrained eye.

There is no question that Mike Conley is a better ball handler than anyone in that second tier.

**Go Getter** · 10-28-2011, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by EricForman

i really think DRose's point guard abilities are being overblown by some on ISH. make no mistake, he is a superstar, a great player, a worthy MVP. but he is a Wade type of player. He scores and attacks the rim.

His handles, and passing, although good, are nowhere near true playmaker level like Chris Paul and Steve Nash.

You're wrong.

D-Rose has the same level talent as those guys he's just a better scorer. He's only 23, and has improved so much there's no reason why he can't get better at passing? And his handles are top notch he breaks off more ball handlers that Nash and CP3 and it's not only due to speed and quickness he has some very polished go-to-moves.

Nash was never thrust into a prominent role as a kid but now all of a sudden people act like young guards can't get better and become 10+ assist-type point guards like him.

Some systems don't really allow for that and some teams don't want one player handling the rock all the time and leading the league in passes stolen every year as well.

People talk about making teammates better and a "team game" but a team game starts with defense and letting everyone get touches/moving the ball around, not just one guy dribbling dents in the floor waiting for a team of cutters and spot up shooters.

Why would Rose run around all day and pass the ball to inferior teammates when he can score and win 62 games?

Just wait until we get a solid offensive scheme haters.

**EricForman** · 10-28-2011, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Go Getter

You're wrong.

D-Rose has the same level talent as those guys he's just a better scorer. He's only 23, and has improved so much there's no reason why he can't get better at passing? And his handles are top notch he breaks off more ball handlers that Nash and CP3 and it's not only due to speed and quickness he has some very polished go-to-moves.

Nash was never thrust into a prominent role as a kid but now all of a sudden people act like young guards can't get better and become 10+ assist-type point guards like him.

Some systems don't really allow for that and some teams don't want one player handling the rock all the time and leading the league in passes stolen every year as well.

People talk about making teammates better and a "team game" but a team game starts with defense and letting everyone get touches/moving the ball around, not just one guy dribbling dents in the floor waiting for a team of cutters and spot up shooters.

Why would Rose run around all day and pass the ball to inferior teammates when he can score and win 62 games?

Just wait until we get a solid offensive scheme haters.

Two points.

1: I never said Rose can't one day become a elite passer/playmaker/dribbler. I said RIGHT NOW, his passing or playmaking or dribbling isn't as good as Nash and Chris Paul.

2: Yes, I must be a Rose hater even though I said he was a worthy MVP, a superstar, and "Wade-type of player" (who is undoubtedly a top 5 player in the world).

Yes... I'm hating.

You typed 400 words and you missed the point completely.

**PostUpBumpSpinJ** · 10-28-2011, 03:08 PM

Steve Nash. No one keeps their dribble alive better/longer than nash, he's crafty, which makes up for the speed difference between a guy like himself vs a Rose or Rondo.

**knickswin** · 10-28-2011, 03:48 PM

I don't think Lebron's that great a dribbler. He is really good no doubt, but I don't know if he's the best dribbler among small forwards. Part of the reason he is so good at protecting the ball is he will probably blow by you or draw a foul or even get an and-1 if you play him too close because of his speed and strength. I don't see Lebron pull out crossovers or anything like that though and sometimes it seems like his first-step dribble moves arsenal is limited. The fact that he can control the ball so well while running at full speed in the open court is impressive though.

**Go Getter** · 10-29-2011, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by EricForman

Two points.

1: I never said Rose can't one day become a elite passer/playmaker/dribbler. I said RIGHT NOW, his passing or playmaking or dribbling isn't as good as Nash and Chris Paul.

2: Yes, I must be a Rose hater even though I said he was a worthy MVP, a superstar, and "Wade-type of player" (who is undoubtedly a top 5 player in the world).

Yes... I'm hating.

You typed 400 words and you missed the point completely.

YOU missed the point. (however I agree with #1)

You say he's a Wade-type player but he is not. He can drive and penetrate like Wade but on a team that is well-suited for him Rose would NOT be the #1 scorer. I can't say the same for Wade.

Rose is CALLED to score and [play the point which is not optimal for a young point guard but he handles it. I think you as well as other casual observers get the NEED to shoot mixed up with the WANT to shoot.

Rose needs to shoot more than he WANTS to jack up shots due to the Bulls roster makeup.

**pauk** · 10-29-2011, 02:07 AM

many who have more or less great handling like rose, cp3, rondo, deron, nash, j-wall, wade, crawford, kidd, b davis, tyreke, lebron, westbrook and so on....

but the best is without doubt CHRIS PAUL!

**pauk** · 10-29-2011, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by knickswin

I don't think Lebron's that great a dribbler. He is really good no doubt, but I don't know if he's the best dribbler among small forwards. Part of the reason he is so good at protecting the ball is he will probably blow by you or draw a foul or even get an and-1 if you play him too close because of his speed and strength. I don't see Lebron pull out crossovers or anything like that though and sometimes it seems like his first-step dribble moves arsenal is limited. The fact that he can control the ball so well while running at full speed in the open court is impressive though.

lol @ the only and best point-forward in the NBA and one of the best point-forwards ever "not being even the best dribbler at SF"

im telling you man... only a lebron hater would say something stupid like this

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