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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson:Arguably The Best Of All Time?

    I dont think he has a case, but I do find it odd how every single player he played with and against believes he does.

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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson:Arguably The Best Of All Time?

    As great as Oscar was, he was never in the discussion as to the best of HIS era. That was exclusively among Wilt and Russell, who shared the exact same number of MVPs while they played together (4 each.) And in the 70's, it was pretty much Kareem alone.

    BTW, though, Oscar not only played in an era with Russell and Wilt, but West, Baylor, Havlicek, McAdoo, Lanier, Cowens, Hayes, Unseld, Reed, Bellamy, Thurmond, Archibald, Pistol, Pettit, and Lucas...among the many greats of that era.

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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson:Arguably The Best Of All Time?

    IMO if Oscar Robertson wasn't compared to LeBron James, this board would stop hating on him.

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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson:Arguably The Best Of All Time?

    If Oscar Robertson wasn't compared to LeBron, his name would almost never be mentioned in the media. There's a reason why he's a bitter old man nowadays; whining and spitting venom at all time greats and current players who get more publicity than him.

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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson:Arguably The Best Of All Time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phong
    If Oscar Robertson wasn't compared to LeBron, his name would almost never be mentioned in the media. There's a reason why he's a bitter old man nowadays; whining and spitting venom at all time greats and current players.
    Oscar Robertson is an all-time great you tool. LeBron comparisons don't help him, they hurt him. If you can't see that, you're ignoring reality.

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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson:Arguably The Best Of All Time?

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    Oscar Robertson is an all-time great you tool. LeBron comparisons don't help him, they hurt him. If you can't see that, you're ignoring reality.
    You really lack reading comprehension skills. Where did I say he's not an all-time great? He is. But like many others his name is mostly forgotten except for huge basketball fans. His name wasn't brought up much in the media until LeBron arrived in the league just for comparison purposes.

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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson:Arguably The Best Of All Time?

    Quote Originally Posted by PTB Fan
    Would you say he's got a respectable case for the first spot?

    Where do you have him on your all time list?

    no he doesn't have a case for GOAT.

    one title as a second fiddle.

    30-10-10 gets attention because we have a fixation with triple doubles or well rounded numbers. When you look around and see eveyrone else form his era were dropping 50-25, or 37-15-4 (Baylor) or 21-21-5 (6'7 White guy Jerry Lucas) then 30-10-10 becomes.... "okay, pretty cool" but hardly "OMGZ"

    No case whatsoever for GOAT and tied with hakeem for being most overrated all time great on ISH because some people on ISH think these two belong anywhere higher than, say, 9 on the all time list. I see crap like Hakeem or Oscar better than Shaq *shaking my head*
    Last edited by EricForman; 10-22-2011 at 02:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phong
    You really lack reading comprehension skills. Where did I say he's not an all-time great? He is. But like many others his name is mostly forgotten except for huge basketball fans. His name wasn't brought up much in the media until LeBron arrived in the league just for comparison purposes.
    Many of his peers said he was the best they ever saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricForman
    no he doesn't have a case for GOAT.

    one title as a second fiddle.

    30-10-10 gets attention because we have a fixation with triple doubles or well rounded numbers. When you look around and see eveyrone else form his era were dropping 50-25, or 37-15-4 (Baylor) or 21-21-5 (6'7 White guy Jerry Lucas) then 30-10-10 becomes.... "okay, pretty cool" but hardly "OMGZ"

    No case whatsoever for GOAT and tied with hakeem for being most overrated on ISH because some people on ISH think these two should be anywhere above, say, #8 on the all time list. Or better than Shaq *shaking my head*
    Oscar or Hakeem being 8th isn't that bad actually.

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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson:Arguably The Best Of All Time?

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    Many of his peers said he was the best they ever saw.
    Many of his peers said the same about Bill Russell and Wilt, two guys who dominated that era? So?
    And what does that have to do with what I said anyway?

    He never had an argument for best player of his era, and now we want to catapult him to best of all time? Based on what? Triple-doubles and a championship won with Kareem?

    As for the comparison with LeBron he should be happy that his name has been brought back in the spotlights.
    Last edited by Phong; 10-22-2011 at 03:00 PM.

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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson:Arguably The Best Of All Time?

    Quote Originally Posted by PTB Fan
    Very hard over Russell and Chamberlain, but this is all arguable.
    How is it arguable when Oscar won 1 MVP in that era while Wilt won 4 MVP's and Russell 5 MVP's? If he was that good how could he have far less league mvp's than them in the same era?

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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson:Arguably The Best Of All Time?

    60's.

    He was 30 10 10 as rookie. Wilt even had 50.4 ppg & 25.7 rpg for a season.There were some guys getting 20 boards per game like nothing.60's stats cannot be compared with modern basketball.

    You may hate Lebron but if he is not goat with those stats in this era,Robertson cannot be goat with similar stats in 60's basketball.

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