PTI: Kornheiser said Dirk had a top 3-4 playoff run of all-time in all of sports

[guy]

I've disagreed with everyone that has said Dirk has been overrated as a result of his playoff run. But thats a little insane.

[Theoo's Daddy]

jordan's first 3 peat are all in the top 3.. So where does this leave dirk ? We haven't counted shaq yet. he needs to lay off the crack pipe.

[AlphaWolf24]

jordan's first 3 peat are in the top 3.. So where does this leave dirk ?

Jordan getting past Ewing and bunch of CBA players only to face a Hurt Laker team/Drexler and Keving Duckworth /Charles barkley and cokehead Richard Dumas is nowhere near...well I will say MJ's 91 run is close...but

Dirk getting past OKC , LA, and then a Heat team with WADE , LJ , and Bosh is a better acomplishment then every Post season run MJ had outside of maybe 91'




why do Jordan stans riun every thread...MJ was great but come on....be real.

[Kblaze8855]

Hakeem and Duncan alone probably knock Dirk out of the top 3 playoff runs in texas NBA history. Forget about it if you include all sports.

[Droid101]

PTI: Kornheiser is a dumb idiot.

[Sarcastic]

Isiah beat Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, and Magic Johnson in his first title run. That is definitely up there for best of all time.

[Fatal9]

Isiah beat Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, and Magic Johnson in his first title run. That is definitely up there for best of all time.

Not sure if serious.

[SCdac]

Nobody would say his playoff run wasn't great, it was def one of the better ones of the past 10 or so years... but to call it a top 3 run ever... you'd pretty much have to wildly underrate his supporting cast and wildly overrate his competition to do that. Many of the players that made his competition what it was (Kobe, Durant, Lebron, etcP), were being guarded by Marion, Kidd, Stevenson, etc, so got to give them credit as well in that playoff run.
[color=white]*In b4 DMavs turns this into a 10 page thread[/color]

[AngelEyes]

Isiah beat Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, and Magic Johnson in his first title run. That is definitely up there for best of all time.

Isiah Thomas beat Larry Bird? Larry Bird played 6 games that entire year and missed the entire playoffs, so how did he beat Larry Bird. Isiah Thomas is a great player but he didn't have the responsibility of those other players and just plain isn't on their level. The Detroit Pistons beat the Boston celtics, Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Lakers, not Isiah Thomas. Thomas, frankly wasn't that extraordinary in the 89 playoffs.

[Rekindled]

Isiah beat Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, and Magic Johnson in his first title run. That is definitely up there for best of all time.

fail

[Carbine]

Fact - he did go through much, much tougher competition than Duncan did in '03, and was on the same level as Hakeem.

Fact - Over half the people in the world thought the Mavs were going out in the 1st round, so they had almost zero expectations of winning...yet they still won.

Fact - Dirk outplayed all of his contemporaries in each round of the playoffs, some of which include a top 10 player of all time currently, two other top 15 all time guys playing in their prime on the same team...and Durant, who some believe will be a top 15 player of all time when it's all said and done.

Fact - No All-NBA'ers on Dirks team



Look, you can slice it however which way you want to, you can point out Dirk not being a dominating force on defense....but the fact remains that he went through as tough of opposition as any superstar has ever went through in the playoffs in the modern era.....and he did it with a team of which half the experts thought were 1st round exits.

What Dirk helped his team accomplish was amazing. His name deserves to be in any conversation with best playoff runs.

[Kblaze8855]

I have to ask why I keep hearing about how the Mavs were supposed to lose in round one.

Where does that come from? I dont remember it even really being discussed. Was that a series of great interest to people or something?

One of the 4 series a year people say ESPN experts got wrong?

What?

What were the reasons to believe the Mavs were losing in the first round this year?

[Boston C's]

Jordan getting past Ewing and bunch of CBA players only to face a Hurt Laker team/Drexler and Keving Duckworth /Charles barkley and cokehead Richard Dumas is nowhere near...well I will say MJ's 91 run is close...but

Dirk getting past OKC , LA, and then a Heat team with WADE , LJ , and Bosh is a better acomplishment then every Post season run MJ had outside of maybe 91'




why do Jordan stans riun every thread...MJ was great but come on....be real.

your ignorance is unbelievable... your such a jordan hater its not even funny...
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...jordami01.html

you could argue damn near everyone of his playoff runs were better then dirks... not saying they all are but you saying just one is really shows how much of a hater you are

[Arroyo8]

idk about that

[SCdac]

some other facts:

- Brandon Roy was a shell of himself in the playoffs, and averaged a sad 23 minutes a game in the PO's ... Portland was basically a one man team, surrounded by good role players.

- Lakers and Mavs had the exact same record going into the PO's, and Mavs had a better record than the Thunder despite losing Dirk for 9 games...

- Gasol averaged a whopping 13.5 ppg (.42 FG%) and 6.8 rpg going into the LA/DAL series and looked way out of it in both series.

- Dirk's team beat teams with big men consisting of Bosh, Gasol (30), Ibaka, and Aldridge... not exactly prime Shaq, Duncan, Ewing, Robinson, Garnett, etc.

- Thunder were a good team, enough to make the PO's, but they're also lead by two 22 year olds, and basically no one on the team has veteran experience (Perkins was coming off serious injury, wasn't even averaging close to 1 bpg or .50 FG% going into the WCF)

- expectations and predictions of a team don't equal how good a team is. how good the team turns out to be equals how good the team is.

- Lebron had one of the biggest disappearing acts of the last 10 years, and alot of credit should go to the Mavs perimeter D, sometimes it seemed liked Marion was in his head... who knows.

- Mavericks had a good 8-9 guys with playoff experience... and in the playoffs, Kidd lead the Mavs in Assists/Steals/Threes, Chandler lead in Blocks/Rebounding... had alot of help in all areas - Dirk had a lesser PER and Win Share than both Duncan (03) and Hakeem (94)