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College superstar
Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
Originally Posted by Big#50
KAJ
DUNCAN
Shaq
Hakeem
DROB
Malone
Ewing
WILT
Russell
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Power forward.
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Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
Originally Posted by D.J.
Power forward.
He's a big man. The best since Jabbar the GOAT.
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College superstar
Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
Originally Posted by Big#50
He's a big man. The best since Jabbar the GOAT.
He's still primarily a power forward.
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Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
Originally Posted by D.J.
He's still primarily a power forward.
Not to me. He is a big.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
Originally Posted by Big#50
He's a big man. The best since Jabbar the GOAT.
Shaq.
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Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
Originally Posted by catch24
That's not how rankings work though. You can't take away these players accomplishments to fit what you think works. Had MJ never won a championship? Is he even a top 3 player?
But like I mentioned....
I took into account the other player's rings and other accolades as well. And I think it's fair to say that when everything's considered the other centers surpass him.
And no, MJ wouldn't be considered teh GOAT if he didn't have a ring. But I can guarantee that if he only had 2 rings the majority would still rank him no lower than top 3.
A good way to rank them would be by assigning a point system (1-10) based on different factors i.e.:
Rings
Defense
Impact
Offense
Stats/accolades
Then we'd accumulate the points and the player with the most wins.
Here are two examples... Bill vs Kareem:
Rings: Bill 10 Kareem 9
Defense: Bill 10 Kareem 10
Offense: Bill 6 Kareem 10
Impact: Bill 7 Kareem 7
Stats/accolades: Bill 9 Kareem 10
Now... I'm sure the impact can be argued cause it can be hard to gauge, so they stayed the same. The ratings should also be compared to Hall of Fame level of play. By that I mean, if we were to rate Bill's offense compared to Hall of Fame players, he'd be about average (give or take 1 pt). Of course, Kareem is the all time leading scorer and arguably one of the top 3 best scorers of all time, with an array of weapons most notably the skyhook. Do we honestly wanna rate Bill's offense as high as Kareem's, Wilt's, Shaq's, D Rob's, Hakeem's, etc.etc?
I think that's a fair way to judge/rate/rank players in this level... no?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
Nate was jacked.
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College superstar
Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
Originally Posted by Big#50
Not to me. He is a big.
Dirk is a big too, but he's still a PF. David Robinson, Rasho Nesterovic, and Nazr Mohammed were centers.
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Kobe Apostle
Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
Originally Posted by Big#50
KAJ
DUNCAN
Shaq
Hakeem
DROB
Malone
Ewing
WILT
Russell
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dont overrate tim dunkedon
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Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
My top 10...
1. Russell
2. Kareem
3. Wilt
4. Shaq
5. Hakeem
6. Moses
7. Mikan
8. Robinson
9. Ewing
10. Reed
Note:
-I kind of just threw Mikan out there.
-Wilt was greater than both Shaq and Hakeem but I would rather have Shaq and Hakeem on my team.
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Kobe Apostle
Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
Originally Posted by Big#50
He's a big man. The best since Jabbar the GOAT.
no hes not
Kareem, Russell, Wilt, Shaq > Duncan
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
Originally Posted by D.J.
Dirk is a big too, but he's still a PF. David Robinson, Rasho Nesterovic, and Nazr Mohammed were centers.
Dirk is arguably a shooting guard.
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Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
Originally Posted by andgar923
*whew... *I was worried they were gonna have Howard in there.
I still don't think Bill should be no.1
Where do you have Bill then? IMO, he cannot be any lower than 3. I use to have Kareem above him but after doing some more research on the two I realize that Russell was the greater of the two. It is funny, because I use to use a similar argument that you are currently using.
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Kobe Apostle
Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
Shaq.
Shaq was easily better than Duncan
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phal5
Re: Top 10 Centers In NBA History as of 2011, Fox Sports
Originally Posted by andgar923
Now... I'm sure the impact can be argued cause it can be hard to gauge
That could by all means be one way to see it, but Russell's intangibles are more important to me than you. We clearly value the same aspects of the game...just some more than others.
I think that's a fair way to judge/rate/rank players in this level... no?
Somewhat. Not like there's anything wrong with ranking Kareem over Russell. I think you're selling Russell short because of his offensive numbers, though.
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Last edited by catch24; 10-07-2011 at 02:28 AM.
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