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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Originally Posted by eliteballer
That's Jordan's entire career, Kobe's career isnt over yet.
And his efficiency will go down even more.
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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Originally Posted by RazorBaLade
How is eFG% figured out?
It adjusts for the fact that a 3PT is worth one more point than a 2PT (e.g., Player X goes 4/9 with two threes, while Player Y goes 5 for 10 with zero threes. Each player has 10 points and the same eFG - 50%
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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Originally Posted by andgar923
And his efficiency will go down even more.
Unlike Jordan, Kobe's FG% has stayed steady as he's aged
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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Originally Posted by eliteballer
Unlike Jordan, Kobe's FG% has stayed steady as he's aged
Yeah.... still lower than MJ's.
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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Yup..if only Kobe played in the league when the Bad Boys allowed more PPG than Nash/Dirk Mavericks.
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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Originally Posted by eliteballer
Yup..if only Kobe played in the league when the Bad Boys allowed more PPG than Nash/Dirk Mavericks.
He'd take more 3pt shots cause he can't penetrate and lacks the IQ to take smarter higher percentage shots?
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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Originally Posted by eliteballer
Considering how close that is when Jordan played most of his career(up to 96) in an era where high FG%'s were far more common and easier to obtain(Barkley shooting 60% for example)...well lets just say the efficiency argument goes right out the window.
FG% was higher because less threes were taken and because big men scored more.
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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Yeah, Kobe can't penetrate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVKSl_7aW6s
Go ahead and elaborate on your argument about how Rik Smits is better than Dwight
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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Originally Posted by catch24
It adjusts for the fact that a 3PT is worth one more point than a 2PT (e.g., Player X goes 4/9 with two threes, while Player Y goes 5 for 10 with zero threes. Each player has 10 points and the same eFG - 50%
Ah. 51 to 49. I'll take it.
Of course IDK if that is taking into account the 2 seasons when Jordan shot from a closer 3 pt line and the early seasons of Kobe's career. So it might even be more like 51 to 50. 1% difference, but in the playoffs the gap is larger.
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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Originally Posted by eliteballer
nowhere on the same level as MJ dude.
And yeah... your stats on defense are terribly misleading.
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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Originally Posted by BEAST Griffin
FG% was higher because less threes were taken and because big men scored more.
Then why were outside shooters like Miller and Mullin having seasons shooting over 50%? The style of play was focused on offense with less emphasis on stopping the other team at all costs, that's why. You can go back and watch. Defenders will give up on a play quicker/easier than they do now.
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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Originally Posted by eliteballer
Then why were outside shooters like Miller and Mullin having seasons shooting over 50%? The style of play was focused on offense with less emphasis on stopping the other team at all costs, that's why. You can go back and watch. Defenders will give up on a play quicker/easier than they do now.
Did you not understand what he stated?
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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Originally Posted by andgar923
He'd take more 3pt shots cause he can't penetrate and lacks the IQ to take smarter higher percentage shots?
Just an fyi, shooting 35% from three is the same as 50% from two. There's no way 18 footers are higher percentage..... The only thing is that not standing on the 3pt line allows for a chance of a real high % shot inside the paint and it makes rebounds a little easier.
IE 35/100 produces 105 points on 35% from three... Where as 50/100 from 2 produces 100 points on 50%. I think the future of the NBA will be a lot more 3 pt oriented.
Last edited by RazorBaLade; 09-14-2011 at 01:42 AM.
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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Originally Posted by eliteballer
Then why were outside shooters like Miller and Mullin having seasons shooting over 50%? The style of play was focused on offense with less emphasis on stopping the other team at all costs, that's why. You can go back and watch. Defenders will give up on a play quicker/easier than they do now.
They were great shooterss.
But when they averaged 50% the rate of their 3pt attempts was lower.
And their effective field goal percentage in those years wasn't an anomaly.
Ray Allen or Steve Nash are just as effective....and they played in this era...
You're really not making a good argument here. I'm not sure you even got the point of my post.
Last edited by BEAST Griffin; 09-14-2011 at 02:02 AM.
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Re: Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan Career 2 Point FG%...
Originally Posted by eliteballer
From age 21(Though Jordan turned 22 midway through his rookie year)
Kobe: 7518-15528: 48%
Jordan: 11611-22795: 51%
Kobe takes more 3's because he can make them better and it adds another dimension to confuse the D, and also because 1 on 1 isos are more difficult.
Considering how close that is when Jordan played most of his career(up to 96) in an era where high FG%'s were far more common and easier to obtain(Barkley shooting 60% for example)...well lets just say the efficiency argument goes right out the window.
So now this kiddo is dissing MJ and Charles?
Funny Crap You Put Up Influenced by My Thread. Sorry but Jordan still had a higher 2-Point FG% than Kobe and Barkley`s 2-Point FG% was Shaq-like while doubled more than any other player not named Shaq in his prime healthy 1985-1995
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