How Exactly Do You Stat Pad?

[dee-rose]

Missing tip ins for more rebounds.

[Simple Jack]

You pull a Wilt Chamberlain.

IE:

- fail to deliver when game is on the line, get most of your stats in the garbage minutes when team is down big (see '62 series vs. Celtics)
- you play 48 minutes a game, even in blowouts where team is up/down 25+ pts just to hit your specific statistical targets

Players don't usually get this opportunity anymore, but Wilt is the golden standard when it comes to this.

This is the only situation I can see fit to label someone a stat-padder. When he plays heavy minutes, with the game out of reach.

[Simple Jack]

so true...i've lost count of all the times i've seen leBron fly in to steal an easy board that his big could've gotten. It got so bad in cleveland that guys like Varejo and Z would simply clear out for james to get the rebound. Also i hate guys that play their FG%....Who gives a shit, as the best player their are certain shots you have to take...leBron james is the king of deferring especially when he see a few of his shots not go down.

So you'd rather a player continue to shoot when he's not feeling it instead of getting others involved and contributing in other ways?

On top of that, what was the rebounding differential when LeBron was out of games the past few years. You would expect Anderson to have grabbed like 13 boards a game this year without the rebound stealer LeBron in his way, no?

[DRose1899]

this guy know the answer

[knightfall88]

So you'd rather a player continue to shoot when he's not feeling it instead of getting others involved and contributing in other ways?

You don't get players involved if you are not a threat. Giving players the ball late in the shot clock out in perimeter with nothing to do with it but shoot is not getting them involved.

Lets criticise Kobe for game7 last year. He shot bad at the start but he kept shooting so the celtics had to keep guarding him anyways and as a result, freed up the bigs and other players to do their thing. So what if he just decided to stop shooting since it wasnt his night? Well then you would have a game similar to Lebron quitting against the Celtics.

[Simple Jack]

You don't get players involved if you are not a threat. Giving players the ball late in the shot clock out in perimeter with nothing to do with it but shoot is not getting them involved.

Lets criticise Kobe for game7 last year. He shot bad at the start but he kept shooting so the celtics had to keep guarding him anyways and as a result, freed up the bigs and other players to do their thing. So what if he just decided to stop shooting since it wasnt his night? Well then you would have a game similar to Lebron quitting against the Celtics.

Enough with the cliches. The holding the ball until the end of the shotclock crap is extremely exaggerated. It's also a miracle that he can get those guys to all shoot career highs despite getting the ball, surprisingly, with little to no time left on the clock for a proper set shot.

?? Not shooting doesn't imply not being guarded. Is this a joke?

LeBron could literally not take a single shot all game and drive and dish every play. You're a complete idiot if you think he doesn't draw at least 2 defenders in the paint each time.

Now we're going to act like Kobe's 6/24 game was actually great.

[Christofire]

So you'd rather a player continue to shoot when he's not feeling it instead of getting others involved and contributing in other ways?

On top of that, what was the rebounding differential when LeBron was out of games the past few years. You would expect Anderson to have grabbed like 13 boards a game this year without the rebound stealer LeBron in his way, no?

there's a difference between getting others involved and deferring. no matter how many shots you miss as the best player you dont pass up on makeable looks at the rim, or opportunities to score for the sake of saving you efficiency. Noone gives a shit about efficiency, we dont want the best player on our team playing like a coward because he's afraid he;ll miss another shot. What good is efficiency in a losing effort?..... What's wrong with you stat heads. efficiency is not worth your best player taking his foot of the Gas....efficiency only matter if you've taken the shots you should be taking as the best player. It doesnt mean a thing if you passed up good looks or played tentatively and deferred alot.

[Sarcastic]

You pull a Wilt Chamberlain.

IE:

- fail to deliver when game is on the line, get most of your stats in the garbage minutes when team is down big (see '62 series vs. Celtics)
- you play 48 minutes a game, even in blowouts where team is up/down 25+ pts just to hit your specific statistical targets

Players don't usually get this opportunity anymore, but Wilt is the golden standard when it comes to this.

[Simple Jack]

there's a difference between getting others involved and deferring. no matter how many shots you miss as the best player you dont pass up on makeable looks at the rim, or opportunities to score for the sake of saving you efficiency. Noone give a shit about efficiency, we dont want the best player on our team playing like a coward because he's afraid he;ll miss another shot. What good is efficiency in a losing effort?..... What wrong with you stat heads. efficiency is not worth your best player taking his foot of the Gas....efficiency only matter if you taken the shots you should be taking as the best player. It doesnt mean a thing if you passed up played tentatively and deferred alot.

So in plain terms, you want a guy to continue taking tough, contested fadeaway jumpers, rather than looking to pass and create offense for the rest of his team. Gotcha.

Continuing to take bad shots isn't keeping your foot on the gas; it's being stupid, and well, continuing to take bad shots.

Every play has a handful of games where they played, what we would call, tentatively. Jordan had one of them vs the Pistons, Kobe vs the Suns, and LeBron vs Boston.

[Christofire]

So in plain terms, you want a guy to continue taking tough, contested fadeaway jumpers, rather than looking to pass and create offense for the rest of his team. Gotcha.

Continuing to take bad shots isn't keeping your foot on the gas; it's being stupid, and well, continuing to take bad shots.

Every play has a handful of games where they played, what we would call, tentatively. Jordan had one of them vs the Pistons, Kobe vs the Suns, and LeBron vs Boston.

no i want him to play the way he would play had he been making his shots.
Do you think Jordan ever thought about his last shot?...Do you think Kobe thinks about his last sho?, Wade?, Rose? Durant?.....You're the best player, be it, We dont expect our best player to never have a bad game, but when he's having a bad game we atleast expect consistency in his approach to the game whther he is having a good or bad game.

[Simple Jack]

no i want him to play the way he would play had he been making his shots.
Do you think Jordan ever thought about his last shot?...Do you think Kobe thinks about his last sho?, Wade?, Rose? Durant?.....You're the best player, be it, We dont expect our best player to never have a bad game, but when he's having a bad game we atleast expect consistency in his approach to the game whther he is having a good or bad game.

Of course they do. There's a reason Jordan didn't settle for 3's. He made it a point to get the easier, more efficient shot. He clearly had range. Why didn't he jack them up?

You make it seem as if LeBron simply stops shooting altogether. That's not the case. He just doesn't (for the most part) continue to jack up bad shots. Derrick Rose attacked more last game, instead of settling for long jumpers that clearly weren't falling in prior games. You make adjustments, you don't just keep doing the same thing hoping eventually something will change.

[Christofire]

Of course they do. There's a reason Jordan didn't settle for 3's. He made it a point to get the easier, more efficient shot. He clearly had range. Why didn't he jack them up?

You make it seem as if LeBron simply stops shooting altogether. That's not the case. He just doesn't (for the most part) continue to jack up bad shots. Derrick Rose attacked more last game, instead of settling for long jumpers that clearly weren't falling in prior games. You make adjustments, you don't just keep doing the same thing hoping eventually something will change.

Dont compare leBron to rose....if LeBron had half the heart of that little guy he'd still be in cleveland on his way to a title. I'd rather have rose than LeBron any day of the weak despite james being better, because i know Rose is leaving it all on the floor and his ability to play under pressure and deliver will make up for the advantage in talent that james may have.

2 jordan plays like jordan no matter how bad of a shooting night he is having...and rose stiill hoisted 3s, he just happened to make them this time.

[pauk]

never understood "stat padding" either.... unless its obvious the dude was statpadding..... like kobe in the 81 point game.... or ricky davis throw the ball at his own hoop to get the 1 rebound for the triple double and so on....

saying that kevin love or lebron statpadds is funny and only said by lil kiddie haters... and how the hell do they statpadd?

do they order or bribe their opponents and teammates to get the **** outta the way and leave the loose balls be so they can get the rebounds?
does lebron order or bribe his opponents to leave his teammates open and order the teammates to shoot immediately so he can get assists?
does lebron order or bribe his opponents to move the **** outta the way or ACT like they are defending him but they are really not so he can get points?
does lebron order or bribe his opponents to take it slow on offense and just lay the ball up there soft so he can look like a great defender?

if so.... then oscar robertson-wilt chamberlain-michael jordan were the biggest statpadders ever considering they were the most productive players ever........

[Clutch]

this guy know the answer

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[Sroek]

You have to just watch it as it happens.

For instance, LBJ will often compromise fastbreak opportunities just to intercept a rebound that his teammate was already in a position to grab.

He also refuses to hoist up a buzzer beater from longer than 25 feet to save his FG%