Top 10 players of all time?

[Soothing Layup]

1 - Michael Jordan
2 - Wilt Chamberlain
3 - Kareem abdul Jabbar
4 - Bill Russell
5 - Magic Johnson
6 - Larry Bird
7 - Shaquille O'neal
8 - Oscar Robertson
9 - Hakeem Olajuwon
10 - Tim Duncan
11 - Jerry west/Julius Erving
12 - Kobe Bryant/Dominique Wilkins

[chips93]

1 mj
2 wilt
3 kareem
4 magic
5 russell
6 hakeem
7 shaq
8 kobe
9 bird
10 duncan

[Round Mound]

Very nice of you to use your own criteria. No Bill Russell completely kills your list.

To Be Great does NOT = rings. Thats a team.

I am talkin about Domination on an All Around Game

Russell was a Great Rebounder, Defender and Shot Blocker...but he was a lousy Offensive Player scoring wise even more. Ofcourse if u play with a Team that has like 8 All Stars and 7 Hall of Famers. You are going to win rings and get assists.

I messed up forgot Shaq i corrected it now

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All That I`ve Mentioned Are Top 1-15 at some point even more

[chips93]

I just don't get why Wilt is ahead of Russell? WHY?

because wilt scored way more points, and grabbed way more rebounds. russell was the best player on a great team.

people give him credit over wilt because he wanted to win, more than wilt. while that might be true, wilt was still better at winning, irregardless of who 'wanted' to win more.

[MasterDurant24]

here is how it should look like... watch and learn...


1. MICHAEL JORDAN
2. WILT CHAMBERLAIN
3. KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR
4. BILL RUSSELL
5. MAGIC JOHNSON
6. LARRY BIRD
7. OSCAR ROBERTSON
8. SHAQUILLE ONEAL
9. TIM DUNCAN
10. HAKEEM OLAJUWON

ONLY AFTER THEM DOES KOBE BELONG AND ARGUABLY... FIGHTING FOR THAT #11 SPOT WITH JULIUS ERVING AND JERRY WEST..............

Oscar Robertson over Shaq, Duncan, Olajuwon, and Kobe is silly. All have won titles as the best player on their team, and just have had better careers overall. Dr. J is also not at the number eleven spot...Moses Malone should be in that spot imo. He was the best player on that legendary 83 sixers team.

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Magic
5. Russell
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaq
8. Tim Duncan
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Hakeem Olajuwon

My list.

[blablabla]

1-jordan
2-wilt
3-russell
4-kaj
5-bird
6-magic
7-kobe
8-shaq
9-hakeem
10-duncan

but I think that most of the rankings are interchangeable so it's better to make tiers

like

jordan tier

jordan





second tier

russell,wilt

both great players but alot people underrate them because they played in a "weak era", but as we saw an old wilt destroyed a prime kaj on several meetings and an old kaj destroyed a young hakeem so I think that these 2 would also be elite players in todays game

than we have kaj he is between the second and third tier you could put him in both

third tier

magic,shaq,bird,kobe,duncan,hakeem

[KevinNYC]

because wilt scored way more points, and grabbed way more rebounds. russell was the best player on a great team.

people give him credit over wilt because he wanted to win, more than wilt. while that might be true, wilt was still better at winning, irregardless of who 'wanted' to win more.

Uh, how was Wilt better at winning?

[chips93]

Uh, how was Wilt better at winning?

he was a much better scorer and better rebounder, both contributing to winning.

however boston's teams were better than phillys teams at winning.

[KevinNYC]

and yet when Wilt changed his style of play was when he won his titles.

[chips93]

and yet when Wilt changed his style of play was when he won his titles.

or was it when he got an all time great as a teammate in jerry west?

[KevinNYC]

or was it when he got an all time great as a teammate in jerry west?

Jerry West wasn't on his team when he won his first title. Go read Wilt's wikipedia page and you'll see what changed the first year Wilt won a title.

He was famously challenged by his coach to change his style of play and become a better teammate on and off the floor. He did so and the team went 68-13. And Chamberlain finally beat Russell in the playoffs after something like 6 straight losses.

Also check this thread, for some knowledge by folks who know far more about Wilt and Russell than I do.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=171377

[KevinNYC]

If you look at the years before Wilt won his first title, his playoff averages were something like 32 points and 3 assists a game.

The year his coach tells him to change his game and they set the record season record, his playoff averages, are 22 points and 9 assists

[FKAri]

1-jordan
2-wilt
3-russell
4-kaj
5-bird
6-magic
7-kobe
8-shaq
9-hakeem
10-duncan

but I think that most of the rankings are interchangeable so it's better to make tiers

like

jordan tier

jordan

Jordan was not in his own tier. KAJ and Wilt are right there with him. All 3 should be in the top tier.

[Colby Brian]

1. mj
2. wilt
3. russell
4. KAJ
5. magic
6. shaq
7. kobe
8. bird
9. duncan
10. hakeem

[Rnbizzle]

not this topics AGAIN..