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Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
Originally Posted by Colby Brian
Career Leaders in Field Goal Attempts
[HTML]Rank Player FGA
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 28,307
2. Karl Malone 26,210
3. Michael Jordan 24,537
4. Elvin Hayes 24,272
5. John Havlicek 23,930
6. Wilt Chamberlain 23,497
7. Dominique Wilkins 21,589
8. Kobe Bryant 21,370
9. Alex English 21,036
10. Hakeem Olajuwon 20,991[/HTML]
Kobe has played in 1103 games, MJ 1072, but MJ has attempted 3,167 more FGs
He attempted 3167 more FGs, But he only has 687 more misses. His efficiency is off the chart compared to Kobe. Kobe is labeled a chucker because he shoots a lot of bad shots and it tears his efficiency down.
Also, Jordan was always a first scoring option for his team, and spent less time in the "rookie" role of limited minutes (because Kobe was so young). He never played behind someone like Shaq.
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Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
Originally Posted by Poochymama
Jordan's fg% is still higher even after accounting for 3's.
no account for all the 18+ footers kobe took, and all the 2 that were only 2,s because his foot was on the line....work all that out for me then come back to me okay.....My whole point is...don;t compare their FG%s
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Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
Originally Posted by Christofire
OMG D-Mavs41.....are you telling me taht a bench consisting of luke walton, adam morrission, sasha vujacic, Unga Bunga, and Josh powel is stacked team?....with bynum being hurt!!, and odom having a bad year? come on man, i know you hate Kobe, but come on dude, there is no way that Roster qualifies as stacked. That was arguably the worst bench in basketball, even with odom on it. Derek Fisher was their starting PG....come on man, be realistic.
5 Jordan Farmar
2 Derek Fisher
9 Sun Yue
12 Shannon Brown
24 Kobe Bryant
18 Sasha Vujacic
3 Trevor Ariza
6 Adam Morrison
4 Luke Walton
7 Lamar Odom
21 Josh Powell
16 Pau Gasol
17 Andrew Bynum
28 DJ Mbenga
Who had a better team?
Sure isn't the Nuggets/Suns/Mavs.
Sure isn't the Cavs or Celtics.
Who had a better roster than the Lakers in 09. Please answer.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
Originally Posted by Christofire
no account for all the 18+ footers kobe took, and all the 2 that were only 2,s because his foot was on the line....work all that out for me then come back to me okay.....My whole point is...don;t compare their FG%s
You are just giving reasons as to why Jordan was better. He didn't take as many bad shots and threes.
What the **** are you talking about?
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Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
Originally Posted by DMAVS41
Who had a better team?
Sure isn't the Nuggets/Suns/Mavs.
Sure isn't the Cavs or Celtics.
Who had a better roster than the Lakers in 09. Please answer.
mavs...celtics, and nuggets....all teams with better depth,
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Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
Originally Posted by DMAVS41
You are just giving reasons as to why Jordan was better. He didn't take as many bad shots and threes.
What the **** are you talking about?
do u see me arguing who is better?
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Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
Originally Posted by Christofire
no account for all the 18+ footers kobe took, and all the 2 that were only 2,s because his foot was on the line....work all that out for me then come back to me okay.....My whole point is...don;t compare their FG%s
WTF is the point of this? Your basically saying Kobe took dumb-**** low efficiency shots like thats somehow means something other than him taking dumb ****ing shots.
Do you people even ****ing think about shit before you post it?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
Originally Posted by Christofire
mavs...celtics, and nuggets....all teams with better depth,
KG was injured. LOL
Mavs? They won 15 less games and have absolutely no argument over the Lakers as a better roster. Are you ****ing serious?
The Nuggets? Really?
This is the problem. You go on and on about they aren't stacked.....but you say a 50 win team is better than a 65 win team? LOL
****ing Kobe stans man. Get a ****ing clue.
And depth is almost meaningless in the playoffs. Most rosters go 7 or 8 deep at most......LOL.
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Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
Originally Posted by DMAVS41
KG was injured. LOL
Mavs? They won 15 less games and have absolutely no argument over the Lakers as a better roster. Are you ****ing serious?
The Nuggets? Really?
This is the problem. You go on and on about they aren't stacked.....but you say a 50 win team is better than a 65 win team? LOL
****ing Kobe stans man. Get a ****ing clue.
And depth is almost meaningless in the playoffs. Most rosters go 7 or 8 deep at most......LOL.
show me the rosters please
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Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
Jordans eFG% (which accounts for 3s) is still higher than Kobe's you *******s
Isn't Kobe taking "tough shots" and "forcing" the issue why u homos are attached to his nuts? Is it our fault Jordan's shot selection was better?
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Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
Originally Posted by DMAVS41
KG was injured. LOL
Mavs? They won 15 less games and have absolutely no argument over the Lakers as a better roster. Are you ****ing serious?
The Nuggets? Really?
This is the problem. You go on and on about they aren't stacked.....but you say a 50 win team is better than a 65 win team? LOL
****ing Kobe stans man. Get a ****ing clue.
And depth is almost meaningless in the playoffs. Most rosters go 7 or 8 deep at most......LOL.
cavs won 60+ which them better than the celtics then?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
Originally Posted by Christofire
cavs won 60+ which them better than the celtics then?
What. I'm asking you how the Cavs roster is better.
Its not. Not even remotely close actually.
Gasol/Odom/Ariza would all be the best player on that Cavs team other than Lebron.
Hell, I would probably take fisher over mo williams in a playoff series....especially back in 09 when Fisher still played good defense.
So lets get this straight. They aren't stacked....yet they seem to be even by your admission the 2nd or 3rd best roster in the league.
And you have had to reach beyond belief in naming teams like the Mavs or Cavs as better rosters.
Sorry dude. You have been thoroughly taught a lesson.
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College superstar
Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
Originally Posted by Christofire
most stacked team?......please take a close look at the last 2 championship laker rosters then subtract the injured and ineffective andrew Bynum from it. If those rosters are your definition of stacked then you neeed to have your head checked
Who did hobled bynum have to compete with for the last 2 games of that series? Take bynum out bs, ur an idiot.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
Here is your top 8 guys on each team in terms of minutes played.
Lebron
Mo
West
Z
Andy
Joe Smith
Wally
Gibson
Damn. That roster is a ****ing joke. Just typing it out is painful. How that team won 66 defies all logic whatsoever.
Kobe
Pau
Odom
Ariza
Fisher
Bynum
Walton
Brown
Are you really going to tell me that the Cavs have a better roster? You can really say that?
Pathetic.
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Re: Kobe is a Chucker?
D-Mavs you're a jackass...please name 1 player that played on that LA bench in their 2 championship runs that you think would be an assets to the MAVs...
everyone outside of odom on those lakers benches = scrubs!!....noone is lined up around the corner for sasha vujacic and luke walton or shannon brown....
trvor ariza got big money from houston and hosuton parted ways with him the following season......dont sell me that stacked team BS....The celtics, and mavericks have had better team from top 2 bottom than the LA Lakers. how phil jackson is winning with all these scrubs is beyond me.
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