This is why Pierce is the most underrated SuperStar of this Era

[Maniak]

.274 3pt%

Amazing.

[BoxOutBOXOUT]

The Kobe hate is warranted by the amount of Kobe fans that make him look bad. I like Kobe but there are some true knobjockey kobe fans on here. Kobe is better but he's not a god as they tell themselves. Kobe has had a better cast at times over his career can u argue that? and atm they both have good casts and they both are doing well individually and their teams. But you have ppl like ne1 and kobeclutch or whatever that have no idea what they're on about half the time.

A) Hating on Kobe is warranted because of his fans? What does Kobe and his body of work have to do with his fans? By the same token, couldn't you say Pierce-hate is warranted because of the insane Celtic fans riding his nuts and trying to make him out to be an all-time great?

B) Kobe has had a better supporting cast? Who?

KG + Allen + Rondo + rest of Celtics >>> Shaq + rest of Lakers

Even if you overrate Shaq as the most dominant player ever to lace up sneaks, that's still only 1 great player. Who else did Kobe have? D-Fish? Horry? Rick f*ckin' Fox? Come on. Pierce had a guaranteed HOFer in KG, a probable HOFer in Ray Allen, and a very possible future HOFer in Rondo, as well as a great bench.

Those great Laker teams were really top-heavy. You had Kobe & Shaq with a bunch of decent role players. Pierce has 3 seasoned all-stars and likely HOFers in addition to a solid cast of role players. Saying Kobe had the better support is laughable.

[eliteballer]

There's not literally one thing Pierce does as good as Kobe, let alone better

[BoxOutBOXOUT]

There's not literally one thing Pierce does as good as Kobe, let alone better

Bullsh*t. He could smoke Kobe in a wheelchair race.

[Killbot]

There's not literally one thing Pierce does as good as Kobe, let alone better

Uh...there are two things bub.
shoot 3's and rebound better.

[macpierce]

pierce plays at his own pace, he is rather intelligent, even though he acts too much, he is a hall of famer though

[BoxOutBOXOUT]

Uh...there are two things bub.
shoot 3's and rebound better.

He sure didn't rebound better in Game 7 of the Finals last year.

[PP34Deuce]

There's not literally one thing Pierce does as good as Kobe, let alone better

Rebounding.
Paul Pierce is a better shooter, can come off screens and shoot more efficient than bryant has.
His footwork is just as good as Kobes..People talk about Kobe post game, but Pierce still has a great post game...hasnt had a need to use it with KG there.
Defensively Paul may not have the lateral ability of Kobe,but his longer wingspan and IQ has led him to make clutch defensive plays...

Even Celtic fans are saying Kobe is better,but we are tired of people acting as if Paul Pierce is not one of the most skillful swingmen in the league... If you look at his highlights from 2005 to now... He still ocasionally dunks on people,still got that step back, flashes the spin move once in a while...has floaters,layups both hands,bank shots,scoop shots,reverses.... fundamental guy

[PP34Deuce]

A) Hating on Kobe is warranted because of his fans? What does Kobe and his body of work have to do with his fans? By the same token, couldn't you say Pierce-hate is warranted because of the insane Celtic fans riding his nuts and trying to make him out to be an all-time great?

B) Kobe has had a better supporting cast? Who?

KG + Allen + Rondo + rest of Celtics >>> Shaq + rest of Lakers

Even if you overrate Shaq as the most dominant player ever to lace up sneaks, that's still only 1 great player. Who else did Kobe have? D-Fish? Horry? Rick f*ckin' Fox? Come on. Pierce had a guaranteed HOFer in KG, a probable HOFer in Ray Allen, and a very possible future HOFer in Rondo, as well as a great bench.

Those great Laker teams were really top-heavy. You had Kobe & Shaq with a bunch of decent role players. Pierce has 3 seasoned all-stars and likely HOFers in addition to a solid cast of role players. Saying Kobe had the better support is laughable.

you know its really sad when fans are willing to underrate the impact of their teams players to "win" an arguement that doesnt really exist.

I didnt see an Overrating Shaq from 2000-2004..I saw a guy who could walk through 25-11 with 2 blocks and drawing enough fouls for a quick kobe to do work.

I saw a prime D fish who was very good defensively,with 3point shot and IQ
I saw an underrated Rick Fox who could post up,shoot the 3,defend 3's great and defend 2's above average.
I saw a Horry who saved you guys 2-3 occasions on big 3's.

Our Celtics have 3 HOF guys true,but a PRime Shaq is worth 2 allens based on his impact in the game to begin with.

Our bench was better,but lets not act like prime Fox,Fisher,and Horry were pushovers.

[NBASTATMAN]

Paul Pierce has always outplayed kobe.. Especially in 2008 finals when he smacked him silly.. Last season they pretty much both played even.. Though Kobe took way more shots.. Paul Pierce is the truth...


That win and loss column should be alot better on kobe's part since he had shaq for half of his career..

[NBASTATMAN]

There's not literally one thing Pierce does as good as Kobe, let alone better

He outplayed kobe with one leg in 2008 finals... By a good margin... He is a better outside shooter..

[PP34Deuce]

To end the thread,, Kobe will end up in his career in the top 7 for greatest player of all time....

Paul Pierce if we win a 2nd championship and he has more contributions than ray...will be in that top 60....

[NBASTATMAN]

To end the thread,, Kobe will end up in his career in the top 7 for greatest player of all time....

Paul Pierce if we win a 2nd championship and he has more contributions than ray...will be in that top 60....

If Kobe played for Boston he would have wound up12- 20th and PP would have wound up 25-30 if he played for LA and Shaq and Phil...

[Bigsmoke]

I do not even think he is a lock for HOF


Dont get me wrong,, he is a great player.

Finals MVP + 9x All Star appearances + career 22ppg = HOFer

[Hittin_Shots]

A) Hating on Kobe is warranted because of his fans? What does Kobe and his body of work have to do with his fans? By the same token, couldn't you say Pierce-hate is warranted because of the insane Celtic fans riding his nuts and trying to make him out to be an all-time great?

B) Kobe has had a better supporting cast? Who?

KG + Allen + Rondo + rest of Celtics >>> Shaq + rest of Lakers

Even if you overrate Shaq as the most dominant player ever to lace up sneaks, that's still only 1 great player. Who else did Kobe have? D-Fish? Horry? Rick f*ckin' Fox? Come on. Pierce had a guaranteed HOFer in KG, a probable HOFer in Ray Allen, and a very possible future HOFer in Rondo, as well as a great bench.

Those great Laker teams were really top-heavy. You had Kobe & Shaq with a bunch of decent role players. Pierce has 3 seasoned all-stars and likely HOFers in addition to a solid cast of role players. Saying Kobe had the better support is laughable.

I clearly meant before their current teams.... Just make up things for your argument guy. And yes hate of a player on a forum is warranted on said forum if it is caused by kobe stans talking shit in the first place.. Does Kobe come on this forum and cry about the people hating him? Only one poster rides Pierces nuts, I don't even kno how the kobe ones have enuff room to fit on kobe'snuts altogether. This thread was in no way saying pierce was better than ur boyfriend kobe, it was comparing him to say that he's underrated...