The difference between kobe and other superstars

[KenneBell]

This season might be his best since '08 if he keeps it up.

[StillKill24]

Pippen = 0 dpoy , Kobe= 0 dpoy Jordan = 1 dpoy.

Camby = 1 dpoy, duncan = 0 dpoy

[ihatetimthomas]

[/B]except in the finals, just kidding... The dude has been great.. No matter what anyone says he is one of the greatest ever... No doubt...

Yea I can about he hasn't exactly been as good as he should be in the finals. I think he gets ahead of himself and gets caught up in the mement and tries to do too much at times, but he still manages to make impacts in other areas. His shot was awful in game 7 but he was huge on the glas

[asdf1990]

I love how people say that Jordan could score easier in this era since you can't play defense yet criticise Kobe for not having said defense like Jordan in his era.

Everyone knows joRdan would average 50ppg on 80/60/90 in today's era.

[TheMiz]

Everyone knows joRdan would average 50ppg on 80/60/90 in today's era.

Hell no.

20ppg at best

[Micku]

Well, not in his first years in the NBA. Young Kobe was young.

In his 00-01, he started to go off. 99-00 was pretty good too.

He had his ups and downs though in his career. But starting from 05-06, he kept playing at a very elite level and never really looked back.

But Kobe survive through with longevity. He beat out T-Mac, A.I, and Vince Carter. They were his initial competition in the guard position.

It's not like he is the first longevity player ever who played at a elite level when they get in their 30s. Other superstars won MVP or played extremely well when they were old too, but Kobe is doing something similar as well. Props to him.

[Lebron23]

Everyone knows joRdan would average 50ppg on 80/60/90 in today's era.

32-36 ppg

But Jordan would be a more efficient scorer than Kobe, Wade, LeBron, and Durant.

[KenneBell]

It's not like he is the first longevity player ever who played at a elite level when they get in their 30s. Other superstars won MVP or played extremely well when they were old too, but Kobe is doing something similar as well. Props to him.

For perimeter players, he's in uncharted waters. I don't know of any other perimeter player that has played as many minutes as him for 15 straight years and hasn't really experienced much of a dropoff.

The guys playing well into their 30's are big men. MJ was great at 35 but he didn't have as many miles on his legs as Kobe does now.

[laronprofit9]

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=200322

Kobe Bryant 2005 to 2010




How Long?
5 Seasons
394 Regular Season Games
79 Playoff Games
11,756 Points
15,404 Minutes
Age 27 to 31

What did he Accomplish?
5x All-NBA 1st Team
5x All-Defensive 1st Team
5x All-Star
3x NBA Finals Appearance
2x NBA Champion
1x NBA League MVP
2x NBA Finals MVP
2x Scoring Champion
2x All-Star Game MVP
1x Olympic Gold Medal

What were his stats? (2005 to 2010)

Regular Season

394 Games

29.8 ppg 5.6 rpg 5.0 apg 1.6 spg 0.4 bpg 3.1 tpg

46%FG/35%3P/85%FT
56%TS=11756/(2*(8901+.44*3434))

Playoffs

79 Games

29.8 ppg 5.7 rpg 5.4 apg 1.5 spg 0.6 bpg 3.3 tpg

47%FG/35%3P/84%FT
57%TS=2358/(2x(1779+.44*659))

Prime Kobe Bryant

Kobe Bryant's Prime has lasted for 5 years, and still looking strong this season(2010-2011) to extend it to 6 years.

The greatest prime by a perimeter player since Michael Jordan's retirement. You can just look at the accolades they speak for themselves. The Stats are MVP-Caliber. High Winning PCT. Deep Playoff Runs.

Congrats to Kobe completing one of the greatest primes ever in NBA History.

[laronprofit9]

For perimeter players, he's in uncharted waters. I don't know of any other perimeter player that has played as many minutes as him for 15 straight years and hasn't really experienced much of a dropoff.

The guys playing well into their 30's are big men. MJ was great at 35 but he didn't have as many miles on his legs as Kobe does now.

Kobe is like 90% of the player Jordan is. Which is still a really damn good player. During Kobe's prime, he was probably as good or closer than anyone will ever be to second-three peat Jordan('95-'98).

[Blue.Legend]

carried to chapionships.

You're a f***ing Idiot... No wonder you have 2 red bars with only 300 post.

Averaging 29.2 points, 5.5 assist and 6 rb on 45.8% shooting is called being carried to a championship?

[B-Low]

I was GONNA come into this thread and say "approximately one rape allegation"...but I decided to take the high road and not say it. Nope won't say it.

[JM720]

Year after year people wait for Kobe's numbers to drastically drop. Better luck next year.

[Indian guy]

There's never been a superstar who stopped being a superstar in his early 30's barring major injury. Every all-time great was still beasting at Kobe's current age.

[KenneBell]

There's never been a superstar who stopped being a superstar in his early 30's barring major injury. Every all-time great was still beasting at Kobe's current age.

True. But most of those guys started playing at 21-22 years old and were done for various reasons around their 13-14th season.

It's a mileage vs age arguement.