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    Quote Originally Posted by Shep
    nowitzki has had a much better career than barkley

    Don't get Sir Charles started.

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    I'd love to see Sir Charles vs. Shep


    One is a repetitive blind stat whore who is just plain stupid. The other guy is just mentally challenged and extremely arrogant. Both are almost always wrong, but Shep more so. (In this case)

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    1. Tim Duncan

    all that matters is #1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP_20
    I'd love to see Sir Charles vs. Shep


    One is a repetitive blind stat whore who is just plain stupid. The other guy is just mentally challenged and extremely arrogant. Both are almost always wrong, but Shep more so. (In this case)
    Yep, and I would say Sir Charles wins because he at least backs up his claims with stats. Shep is a blind David Robinson homer who uses nothing but his opinion.

    Sir charles wins.

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    Dirk is a pathetic Rebounder for a 7ter, Passer, Below Average Efficeincy Scorer for a 7ter and ofcourse a Poor Defender etc..... compared to Barkley

    Dirk has shot 50% once his whole career !

    Barkley is the Only Player in the Top 10 EFF, PER and Statistical +/-...

    Look at the players in the Top in Those Stats Categories and since they don`t recieve underrating then you agree and applaude but when its Barkley ...you don`t.

    Barkley is the Best PF of All Time: Impact Wise and All Around Wise...

    Stats don`t lie...
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    No order:

    Pettit
    Garnett
    Barkley
    Malone
    Hayes


    I consider Duncan a center

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    bla per bla efficiency bla shut up.

    dirk actually deserved his mvp, barkley wasn't even top 2 most valuable in 1993. nowitzki has also been top 3 mvp in 2003, top 2 in 2005, and top 4 in 2006. besides 1993 the only season where barkley was anywhere close to the top of the mvp standings was 1986 when he was third.

    the result of having barkley sometimes did more bad than it did good, this was proven by the sixers trading him for guys they didn't even want, and the suns eventually doing the same thing.

    barkley got to play alongside some all time greats like moses malone, julius erving, maurice cheeks, kevin johnson, hakeem olajuwon, clyde drexler, and scottie pippen, yet he didn't win a championship. how many all time greats has nowitzki played with?

    nowitzki has played 839 games out of a possible 870 in his career, or 96%. barkley played 1073 out of 1280, or 84%.

    barkley was drafted to a sixers team that was 2 years removed from a championship, and a 52 win team the season prior to his rookie year. 3 years after he arrived they were in the lottery. what happened next? barkley cried and got traded.

    barkley was traded to a suns team that was coming off a 53 win season, and a conference semi finals appearance. are you telling me the difference between charles barkley and jeff hornacek is 9 wins? . in barkley's last year as a sun, his team finished with a .500 record . what happened next? barkley cried and got traded.

    barkley was traded to a rockets team that was 2 seasons removed from a championship, and already boasting the second best center in the nba, and the second best shooting guard in the nba. surely adding a top 3 power forward to this team would result in a championship? surely?

    nowitzki was drafted to a franchise that had won more than 28 games on one occasion over the last 8 years of its existence, including seasons of 11 wins, 13 wins, 20 wins, 22 wins, and 24 wins, and during this period, dallas had gone through 6 coaches. nowitzki turned that franchise around. in only his second season, he played a big part in a team that won the most games it had for 10 years. next year he led them to the second most wins in franchise history. and the year after that they re-wrote the record books as dallas won the most it ever had. so he didn't quit like barkley would've. barkley wouldn't have even showed up if he was drafted into a mediocre franchise that was the dallas mavericks.
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    bla per bla efficiency bla shut up.

    Efficiency, PER and Statistical +/- Shows the Level of the Player and the IMPACT...just like LEBRON`s IMPACT TODAY..

    dirk actually deserved his mvp, barkley wasn't even top 2 most valuable in 1993. nowitzki has also been top 3 mvp in 2003, top 2 in 2005, and top 4 in 2006. besides 1993 the only season where barkley was anywhere close to the top of the mvp standings was 1986 when he was third.


    When has Dirk averaged 25.6 PPG (52.2 FG%/56% 2-Point FG%), 12.2 RPG, 5.1 APG? while Doubled-Tripled...Constantly!?

    Barkley was also the most underrated player of his time untill given a Chance to play in a Good Team and Yeah! THAT SAME YEAR... All The Way To the Finals

    How did he get to the finals? How?

    He had 43 Pts (ver 60% FG), 15 Rebounds, 10 Assits in Game 5?
    He had 44 Pts (74.7% FG), 24 Rebounds in Game 7?

    *Player with Most 40 Pt and 20 Rbd Play-Offs Gamesl... with Who? 7`2/ 275-310 lbs Wilt Chamberlain!

    When will we ever see this 7`0 ft POWER FORWARD SCORE THAT EFFICIENTLY, GAME CREATE, PASS AND REBOUND LIKE THAT? While Doubled, While Tripled?




    the result of having barkley sometimes did more bad than it did good, this was proven by the sixers trading him for guys they didn't even want, and the suns eventually doing the same thing.

    barkley got to play alongside some all time greats like moses malone, julius erving, maurice cheeks, kevin johnson, hakeem olajuwon, clyde drexler, and scottie pippen, yet he didn't win a championship. how many all time greats has nowitzki played with?

    Barkley has never played with an MVP TYPE PLAYER THAT CAN CREATE AND IS UNSELFISH IN HIS PRIME...

    STEVE NASH...Hello MVP?!!!!

    A real Interior Defender that Can BOTH SCORE AND REBOUND! Juwan Howard! aswell as a Stacked Up Team

    Dirk had his MVP in the WEAKEST ERA EVER while Barkley has his MVP in "one of the toughest eras in NBA History"...Early 90s!


    nowitzki has played 839 games out of a possible 870 in his career, or 96%. barkley played 1073 out of 1280, or 84%.

    Well there is a Difference. Barkley has PLAYED HARD!...GOING UP FOR REBOUNDS, OFFENSIVELY WAS DOUBLED-TRIPLED AND HAMMERED MOST EVERY GAME (very few complains), WAS A PLAYER NOT AFRAID OF DIVING FOR LOOSE BALLS, CAPABLE OF RUNNING BACK COURT AND BLOCK GUARDS ON THE BREAK, CAPABLE OF RUNNING! in those 84% of his Game!!

    Whilel Dirk is ONE OF THE SOFTEST 7`0 ters ever to Play The Game that just likes to Shoot! ..

    Doesn`t Rebound!, Pathetic Shot Blocker fo a 7`0 PF!, Pathetic Floor Defender!, Weak Passer and NULL GAME CREATOR as Chuck Was and YES SHOOTS WAY LESS EFFECTIVLY than Barkley because at 7`0 ft you are SUPPOSED to DOMINATE THE 2-POINT FG!...but I guess Dirks Interior Weak Post Game and Softy Puss-y Mentality Doesn`t Make Him Able to Dominate Inside!



    barkley was drafted to a sixers team that was 2 years removed from a championship, and a 52 win team the season prior to his rookie year. 3 years after he arrived they were in the lottery. what happened next? barkley cried and got traded.

    Barkley was drafted in 84..Did not Start until 85-86 season...and Moses left the same year...Then whe was left with a crippled 35-37 year old Dr J...and let alone Scrubs...that did not make it to the play-offs un till the year 2000. That is 9 years without making to the play-offs!

    barkley was traded to a suns team that was coming off a 53 win season, and a conference semi finals appearance. are you telling me the difference between charles barkley and jeff hornacek is 9 wins? . in barkley's last year as a sun, his team finished with a .500 record . what happened next? barkley cried and got traded.

    Barkley Made the Suns Go to the Finals go watch the Sonics vs Suns series and see for yourself...And Yes When he Got Traded To Houston because he could no longer play (injuries) as a Focal Point he added 33 Rebounds and 20 Pts in 31 Minutes of Play...the very 1st game they met.

    Has Dirk goten 12 Rbds in his life?

    What happened to KJ? = Unknown Superstar...Dan Majerlie...Faded Away Role Player...

    Not to mention he met the Bulls in 93 (Jordan in HIS TOTAL PRIME!!!)
    Fought the Deepe Rockets with Hakeem and Clyde in 94 and 95 TO 7 GAMES!, TO 7 GAMES!...

    Yes that Same Team....Swept Shaq-Penny and Grant in 95!


    barkley was traded to a rockets team that was 2 seasons removed from a championship, and already boasting the second best center in the nba, and the second best shooting guard in the nba. surely adding a top 3 power forward to this team would result in a championship? surely?

    Barkley couln`t even more of play like he used to by the 95-96 season...go watch it yourself...And excuse me but Hakeem was 34 and Clyde 35....

    Aging Teams With Superstars Don`t Work Well..Because Someone has to Do the Dirty Work...Go look at the 1988-1992 Celtics with Parish, Bird and McHale...(too much lad for guys there where 32,33 and 40)

    Lets also Remebmer the Rockets played in TOUGHER ERA in the NBA...THE REAL NBA!

    NOT THE WORST... LESS COMPETITIVE AND LESS FILLED WITH STARS Era since the late 70s.... YES THE EARLY 2000s


    nowitzki was drafted to a franchise that had won more than 28 games on one occasion over the last 8 years of its existence, including seasons of 11 wins, 13 wins, 20 wins, 22 wins, and 24 wins, and during this period, dallas had gone through 6 coaches. nowitzki turned that franchise around. in only his second season, he played a big part in a team that won the most games it had for 10 years. next year he led them to the second most wins in franchise history. and the year after that they re-wrote the record books as dallas won the most it ever had. so he didn't quit like barkley would've. barkley wouldn't have even showed up if he was drafted into a mediocre franchise that was the dallas mavericks.

    Barkley played hi Ass of In Phily!...League Rebounder, League Offensive Rebounder!, Play-Off League Rebounder 3 Years in a Row, Highest (2-Point FG% for a Focal Scorer from 1986 to 1992). Leagues Most Unstoppalbe Player Inside and Out, Forward Most Doubled and Most Tripled...Created Most Ilegal Defenses in the NBA in the Late 80s and Early 9's. Had the Highest SPG Avg fro the PF Spot Ever!. Averaged 4-6 APG in the Play-Offs had seasons with 1.5 BPG and 1-5/2 SPG! And after 1986 ended up with a bunch of Scrubs...

    Dirk has to stop trying to be the 7`0 Larry Bird...and do what REAL PFs do:

    Dominate the Paint
    REBOUND!
    Become a Decent Shot Blocker and Tough Inside Presence...
    Floor Defender?
    Dive For Loose Balls
    Have LEGENDARY-LIKE GAMES!
    GAME CREATE, PASS...Something Unknown to Dirk...

    To Be Even Seen as Top PF 7-8 PF of All Time.

    By the way...IT WAS BARKLEY...whom...promoted Dirk to go to the NBA..

    Do Dirk should thank his Ass!

    If Dirk would have played in the 80s and 90s...He Would Have Gotten Injured...The Game Was Not Made For Puss-ies .YOU EARNED YOUR POINTS! and THERE WAS NO HELP FOR PERIMTER SHOOTERS (DIRK)
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    Barkley is clearly better than Dirk, There is no debate here so I want Sir Charles to win.

    However, Sir Charles you are underrating Kevin Johnson a lot.... He is probably the most underrated point guard of all-time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iTruWarrior
    Barkley is clearly better than Dirk, There is no debate here so I want Sir Charles to win.

    However, Sir Charles you are underrating Kevin Johnson a lot.... He is probably the most underrated point guard of all-time.
    Underrated in the sports world, overrated on ISH.

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    Also a guy by the name of Maurice Stokes, had he not ended his career in 1958, would be one of the greatest power forwards ever!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iTruWarrior
    Barkley is clearly better than Dirk, There is no debate here so I want Sir Charles to win.

    However, Sir Charles you are underrating Kevin Johnson a lot.... He is probably the most underrated point guard of all-time.
    K.J is underrated I agree..but he was a selfish player...that wanted to be MJ-Isiah when the team needed him to be Stockton.

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    Efficiency, PER and Statistical +/- Shows the Level of the Player and the IMPACT...just like LEBRON`s IMPACT TODAY..
    no, watching games shows the impact
    When has Dirk averaged 25.6 PPG (52.2 FG%/56% 2-Point FG%), 12.2 RPG, 5.1 APG? while Doubled-Tripled...Constantly!?
    what has this got to do with nowitzki winning his mvp rightfully, and barkley never being top 2 most valuable?
    Barkley was also the most underrated player of his time untill given a Chance to play in a Good Team and Yeah! THAT SAME YEAR... All The Way To the Finals
    philadelphia 2 years removed from a championship wasn't a good team? malone, erving, cheeks, toney - all were still there (malone was the best center in the nba, erving the third best small forward), and playing with barkley drove them all out of town.
    How did he get to the finals? How?

    He had 43 Pts (ver 60% FG), 15 Rebounds, 10 Assits in Game 5?
    He had 44 Pts (74.7% FG), 24 Rebounds in Game 7?
    ah yes..you're talking about the sonics series. what did he do in that series? what?

    He had 12 Pts (43%FG), and 3 turnovers (outplayed by a 23 year old shawn kemp) in Game 1?
    He had 13 Pts (29%FG), and 3 turnovers (dominated by a 23 year old shawn kemp, who had 22 points, 15 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, and 3 blocks) in game 6?

    if barkley showed up in those games phoenix would've (and should've) advanced in 5 games
    *Player with Most 40 Pt and 20 Rbd Play-Offs Gamesl... with Who? 7`2/ 275-310 lbs Wilt Chamberlain!
    destroyed
    When will we ever see this 7`0 ft POWER FORWARD SCORE THAT EFFICIENTLY, GAME CREATE, PASS AND REBOUND LIKE THAT? While Doubled, While Tripled?
    you gave 2 good games as an example as to why barkley is better than nowitzki? get out of this thread.
    Barkley has never played with an MVP TYPE PLAYER THAT CAN CREATE AND IS UNSELFISH IN HIS PRIME...

    STEVE NASH...Hello MVP?!!!!
    what a joke. first of all nash wasn't top 8 the first year he won the award, or top 11 the second year. secondly barkley was in his prime in '86, and in '86 maurice cheeks was a top 3 point guard, and was someone who could create with the best of them. then he got to play with kevin johnson, who also was one of the best point guards in the nba. it was by no coincidence, however, that johnson played his best basketball in the seasons prior to barkley's arrival.
    A real Interior Defender that Can BOTH SCORE AND REBOUND! Juwan Howard! aswell as a Stacked Up Team

    Dirk had his MVP in the WEAKEST ERA EVER while Barkley has his MVP in "one of the toughest eras in NBA History"...Early 90s!
    the difference in the two era's is very minor. granted, nowitzki wouldn't have won the mvp in 1993 all things being equal, but barkley never should've either. you can only play against what you are given.
    Well there is a Difference. Barkley has PLAYED HARD!

    Doesn`t Rebound!, Pathetic Shot Blocker fo a 7`0 PF!, Pathetic Floor Defender!, Weak Passer and NULL GAME CREATOR as Chuck Was and YES SHOOTS WAY LESS EFFECTIVLY than Barkley because at 7`0 ft you are SUPPOSED to DOMINATE THE 2-POINT FG!...but I guess Dirks Interior Weak Post Game and Softy Puss-y Mentality Doesn`t Make Him Able to Dominate Inside!
    just because nowitzki has a different game to barkley it doesn't mean he is soft. if barkley posted up every posession instead of shooting wild 3 pointers and 20 footers with no hope of going in maybe i would'nt be schooling you on who was the better player. nowitzki had range, barkley didn't, yet he did his best at telling himself that he did, much to his teams detriment. it would be stupid to force dirk to play only inside when he has shown that he can dominate games from the perimiter time and time again. that'd be like telling barkley to play shooting guard because he is 6-4.
    Barkley Made the Suns Go to the Finals go watch the Sonics vs Suns series and see for yourself
    i've seen it, and destroyed it.
    And Yes When he Got Traded To Houston because he could no longer play (injuries) as a Focal Point he added 33 Rebounds and 20 Pts in 31 Minutes of Play...the very 1st game they met.
    thats awesome. 1 meaningless regular season boxscore, thats all i needed to convince myself that barkley is better . its a pity that barkley needed such motivation to play this well, unfortunately for him and his teams that believed in him he wasn't motivated nearly enough to be a success.
    Has Dirk goten 12 Rbds in his life?

    What happened to KJ? = Unknown Superstar...Dan Majerlie...Faded Away Role Player...
    after barkley left you mean? kj played alot better without him, and majerle had career highs in ppg, rpg, bpg, and 3p% the year before he arrived.
    Not to mention he met the Bulls in 93 (Jordan in HIS TOTAL PRIME!!!)
    Fought the Deepe Rockets with Hakeem and Clyde in 94 and 95 TO 7 GAMES!, TO 7 GAMES!...
    clyde was with the rockets in '94? thats news to me. and they made it to 7 games? congratulations on that, what about winning the series? did they do that? you know, the thing they were meant to do coming in as favourites? not lose a 7 game series after winning the first 2 games on the other teams home court ('94), or lose a series after winning 3 out of the first 4 games, with home court advantage, while shooting 7-16 in the deciding game.
    Barkley couln`t even more of play like he used to by the 95-96 season...go watch it yourself...And excuse me but Hakeem was 34 and Clyde 35....
    oh, here come the excuses . you lay out the excuses, i'll lay out the facts. olajuwon was the second best center in the nba, barkley was the third best power forward in the nba, and drexler was the second best shooting guard in the nba. olajuwon/barkley was the third best duo in the nba, olajuwon/barkley/drexler was the best trio in the nba, and the sixth best single season trio in nba history. there was no excuse for the rockets not to win the championship that year.
    Aging Teams With Superstars Don`t Work Well..Because Someone has to Do the Dirty Work...Go look at the 1988-1992 Celtics with Parish, Bird and McHale...(too much lad for guys there where 32,33 and 40)
    none of these celtics teams had 3 top 3 players at their respective positions
    Lets also Remebmer the Rockets played in TOUGHER ERA in the NBA...THE REAL NBA!

    NOT THE WORST... LESS COMPETITIVE AND LESS FILLED WITH STARS Era since the late 70s.... YES THE EARLY 2000s
    the 00's has had just as many, if not more stars than the 90's.
    Barkley played hi Ass of In Phily!...League Rebounder, League Offensive Rebounder!, Play-Off League Rebounder 3 Years in a Row..bla bla
    ..chemistry destroyer, media cryer, cheeseburger eater, 2 year old girl spitter etc
    And after 1986 ended up with a bunch of Scrubs...
    thats his own fault, he drove any talented players they had away.
    Dirk has to stop trying to be the 7`0 Larry Bird...and do what REAL PFs do:
    his game is finesse, not banging, although when needed he can post up. dirk blazed his own trail, he revolutionised the position.
    To Be Even Seen as Top PF 7-8 PF of All Time.
    top 4 to be precise.
    By the way...IT WAS BARKLEY...whom...promoted Dirk to go to the NBA..

    Do Dirk should thank his Ass!

    If Dirk would have played in the 80s and 90s...He Would Have Gotten Injured...The Game Was Not Made For Puss-ies .YOU EARNED YOUR POINTS! and THERE WAS NO HELP FOR PERIMTER SHOOTERS (DIRK)
    if barkley played today he'd be so out of shape teams couldn't affort to play him more than 5 minutes per game, think of how many fast food stores there were in the 80's to how many there are now! barkley surely wouldn't be able to resist temptation.
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    Both of you need to get a job, because spending this much time posting so much **** having an argument with someone on the internets is kind of bad, i assume you guys arent getting paid for it....

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    no, watching games shows the impact

    Exactly and What is Dirk`s Impact Compared to Barkley`s? EFF, PER are exactly what people don`t like to see (Lebron > Kobe) says More Than Just That!

    what has this got to do with nowitzki winning his mvp rightfully...

    MVP = Best Player with Teams Most Wins...It Doesn`t = Better Player!

    What About Barkley`s Higher PER than Hakeem`s in the 1989-90 Season? and taking his PATHETIC TEAM OF NOBODIES to 53-29 in the More Competitive Eastern Conference...while Hakeem had a lower PER and a Team Record of 41-41?

    Barkley Was the 1990 MVP in MAGIC`s and JORDAN`s PRIME!!! BUT THEY STOLE IT FROM HIM Because All of the Bad Publicity...

    Same Way ...by the way i love Hakeem....He is Favorite Center Ever!...but Barkley was the MVP the 93 Season not necesarly the Best Player.

    But he Was the Second or Third Best Player after Jordan (with Hakeem) from 1985 and 1995 Overal...(that will soon be explained on the next page)


    philadelphia 2 years removed from a championship wasn't a good team? malone, erving, cheeks, toney - all were still there..

    1stly Barkley was not a starter till the 1985-86 season
    2ndly The Team Was Not Built Around Barkley....which Should Have Been but you have to Respect Legends like Malone, Jones and Aging Erving...Something Todays Players don`t know sh-it about...

    Till 1985-86 It was Great Team...(Moses Left after that) Bobb Jones was like 35, The Doctor 36! etc...

    1986-87 Above Average...To Good.

    1987-1992 = Pathetic Team....


    ah yes..you're talking about the sonics series. what did he do in that series? what?...

    destroyed

    Did I Ever Say Kemp Sucked?

    Did he Out Play Barkley? Lets See...

    Game 1

    [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Kemp: 16 Points (6-11), 10 Rebounds, 5 Assits, 1 Steal, 2 Blocks, 4 TOV and 5 Personal Fouls[/COLOR]

    [COLOR="Blue"]Barkley: 12 Points (6-14), 14 Rebounds, 2 Assits, 1 Block, 3 TOV and 2 Personal Fouls[/COLOR]

    Game 2

    [COLOR="darkgreen"]Kemp: 16 Points (5-5), 6 Rebounds, 7 Blocks, 2 TOV and 3 Personal Fouls[/COLOR]

    [COLOR="blue"]Barkley: 24 Points (9-19), 10 Rebounds, 6 Assits and 3 Personal Fouls[/COLOR]

    Game 3

    [COLOR="darkgreen"]Kemp: 19 Points (5-14), 12 Rebounds, 1 Assit, 2 Steals, 3 Blocks, TOV 4 and 5 Personal Fouls[/COLOR]

    [COLOR="blue"]Barkley: 16 Points (7-20), 16 Rebounds, 2 Assits, 4 Steals, 1 Block, 2 TOV and 4 Personal Fouls[/COLOR]

    Game 4

    [COLOR="darkgreen"]Kemp: 20 Points (8-13), 8 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 2 Steals, 4 Blocks, 5 TOV, 6 Personal Fouls (Fouled Out)[/COLOR]

    [COLOR="Blue"]Barkley: 27 (11-20), 7 Rebounds, 4 Assits, 2 Steals, 1 Block, 5 TOV and 5 Personal Fouls[/COLOR]

    Game 5

    [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Kemp: 33 Points (13-18), 6 Rebounds, 4 Assits, 1 Steal, 3 Blocks, 3 TOV and 4 Personal Fouls[/COLOR]

    [COLOR="Blue"]Barkley: 43 Points (16-22), 15 Rebounds, 10 Assits, 2 Steals, 2 Blocks, 3 TOV and 2 Personal Fouls[/COLOR]

    Game 6

    [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Kemp: 33 Points (8-12), 15 Rebounds, 4 Assits, 1 Steal, 3 Blocks, 2 TOV and 5 Personal Fouls[/COLOR]

    [COLOR="Blue"]Barkley: 13 Points (4-14), 11 Rebounds, 3 Assits, 1 Steal, 1 Block, 3 TOV and 3 Personal Fouls[/COLOR]

    Game 7

    [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Kemp: 18 Pts (5-12), 8 Rebounds, 3 Assits, 2 Steals, 2 Blocks, 4 TOV and 6 Personal Fouls (Fouled Out)[/COLOR]

    [COLOR="Blue"]Barkley: 44 Points (12-20), 24 Rebounds, 1 Assits, 1 Steal, 1 Blocks, 3 TOV and 3 Personal Fouls[/COLOR]

    Series Stats:

    [COLOR="blue"]Barkley: 25.6 PPG (50.4% FG), 9.3 RPG, 2.9 APG, 1.3 SPG, 3.4 BPG, 2.7 TOV PG and 3.1 Personal Fouls PG[/COLOR]

    [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Kemp: 20.6 PPG (58.9% FG), 13.9 RPG, 4.0, APG, 1,4 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 3.4 TOV PG and 4.8 Personal Fouls PG[/COLOR]


    What can be said here?...LEARN!

    Kemp slowed Down Barkley with his Great Interior Defense...Maybe!

    Could He Stop him? NOOOOT!

    Kemp Shot well Against Barkley...Better than Barkley...

    But....

    WAS KEMP DOULED TEAMED IN THE SERIES? BARKLEY WAS!
    WAS KEMP TRIPLED TEAMED WITH HELP OF PERIMTER PLAYERS IN THAT SERIES? (PAYTON, McKEY and EDDIE JOHNSON) BARKLEY WAS!



    Barkley Out Rebounded Kemp
    Barkley Out Assited Kemp
    Barkey Was Way Better at Distrubution the Ball and Game Creating (even While Doubled and Tripled by Perimter Players!)
    Barkley Less Turnovers than Kemp
    Barkley`s Floor Defense Was slightly Better than Kemp

    Kemp`s Interior Defense Was Way Better...

    But...Ofcourse...It always has been But...

    [COLOR="Green"]*HE HAD A BETTER DEFENDING TEAM...AND A DEEPER DEFENDING TEAM...THE SONICS WHERE PROBABLY THE BEST "TEAM" NOT TO WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP IN THE 90s[/COLOR]

    And Question?

    Who Was He Guarding While RECIEVING HELP BY HIS TEAMATES IN DOUBLE TEAMING..AGAINST?

    BARKLEY!

    Reason why he nearly had a Fouling Out Series!!!!

    Barkley Made Kemp Foul Out Almost Every Game...Even WHILE DOULBED AND TRIPLED TEAMED!!!

    Barkley Also Went to the Line More....WITH NO PICK AND ROLL SYSTEM....

    And finally: Barkleys most probable 2-Point FG% is around 54% + 24 PPG...because as we know in him..he used to launch alot of 3s

    TAKE A LOOK:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnpagQIHuIs

    Minutes: 3.25!

    [COLOR="DarkGreen"]SONICS THEME and STRATEGY A SIMPLE ONE:

    "STOP BARKLEY AND YOU GOT THE SUNS"

    "DOUBLE AND TRIPLE TEAMING HIM...SEATTLE WORKED TO STOP CHARLES"[/COLOR]

    OWNED!

    Wan`t More Ownership? TURN TO NEXT PAGE....
    Last edited by Sir Charles; 04-26-2009 at 02:40 PM.

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